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Hi All<br>
I really dont understand what is going on here as she should never
felt she was "being chastised" when she attended with non sponsoring
members. I have never heard of this happening before in all my
years here. Sounds to me like the board members in question needed
a little education..... and maybe we do need a "tweak" that changes
the words to "......accompanied by at least one PYC member" Kind of
counterproductive to limit the exposure of a wait-listed member to
the rest of the membership.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/13/2014 3:06 PM, Bill Pelletier
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAO8vADAOjxvFODFTsnJ9DU9j4RuPvzVEvG95ob-pNp20eTkAyQ@mail.gmail.com"
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<div dir="ltr">Update: The only language I could find that would
come close to being a prohibition may be in the Application for
Membership document at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://portsmouthyc.org/WP/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Application-for-Membership-5.pdf">http://portsmouthyc.org/WP/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Application-for-Membership-5.pdf</a>
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<div>On page 4:</div>
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<div><i>"Because we are limited to 250 Active Memberships
there is frequently a Wait List for new members. While on
the Wait List, applicants will receive our regular
Newsletters. While we regret that we cannot grant full
Club privileges to Wait List</i></div>
<div><i>members, we do encourage them to attend our social
functions, always accompanied by at least one sponsor." </i></div>
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<div>Encouraging these Wait List folks to attend social
functions is consistent with the intent of helping fulfill
Article IX Section 5. I personally would stop short of
interpreting this as a hard limitation for Wait List members
attending only with Sponsors, especially since there is no
apparent limitation to "Guests" other than "reasonable
numbers". My opinion is that we should not penalize someone
from enjoying the club with non-Sponsor Members based on that
one statement.</div>
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<div>The C&BLs set a minimum attendance w/Sponsor
requirement, not a mandate that they can only attend w/s
Sponsor. Without knowing any other particulars about the
particular "chastising" event, I would error on the side of
the language in the C&BLs as being only a minimum
requirement. </div>
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<div>Bill P</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Bill
Pelletier <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bill.pelletier@gmail.com" target="_blank">bill.pelletier@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Being one of the "new folks"... A few
questions / observations.
<div><br>
<div>First - since it's been about 14 years or so,
could I get a current copy of the general "...you're
on the waiting list..." letter?</div>
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<div>From reading the 2015 Constitution & By-Laws,
I do not see any prohibition for anyone whose
application has been accepted and is now on the
Waiting List from being a Guest of any other
non-Sponsor members. Probably the only time I would
see that is for events where there is a limited
attendance capacity and where we would want to first
afford non-waiting list prospective members to
attend with their Sponsor(s) in order to fulfill the
requirements of Article IX Section 5. Does anyone
have any historical "practices" (vs. defined
C&BL language) regarding what would appear to me
to be an onerous constraint? </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Article IV Section 1 is (to me) a bit fuzzy on
the status of Guests, considering that there is no
clear definition of "Guest" in the C&BLs.
Something to think about this year regarding
possible C&BL tweaks.<br>
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<div>Bill Pelletier</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at
11:04 AM, Christina Y Weller <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cyweller@comcast.net"
target="_blank">cyweller@comcast.net</a>></span>
wrote:
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solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">BOD members,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Below is an email from Edie Argo (Wait
List) which was sent to me in response to a
test of the PYC-Waitlist email list. She has
asked me to forward this to you, and in a
number of later emails she indicted that she
will be writing to you directly as well.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The \u201cletter\u201d she refers to in her email
is the letter that is sent to all applicants
when they have been interviewed and accepted
to the Wait List.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Chris</div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><i><font
face="'Trebuchet MS'">Christina
Y Weller<br>
4 Tamarind Lane<br>
Exeter, NH 03833<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cyweller@comcast.net"
target="_blank">cyweller@comcast.net</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:603-772-8455"
value="+16037728455"
target="_blank">603-772-8455</a>(h)<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:603-682-6536"
value="+16036826536"
target="_blank">603-682-6536</a>(m)</font></i><span
style="font-family:Helvetica"><br>
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<div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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<div
style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span
style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span
style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">December
12, 2014 at 11:17:06 AM EST<br>
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<div
style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span
style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>From: </b></span><span
style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">edie argo
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:edie@ediespresentperfect.com"
target="_blank">edie@ediespresentperfect.com</a>><br>
</span></div>
<div
style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span
style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span
style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">edie argo
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:edie@ediespresentperfect.com"
target="_blank">edie@ediespresentperfect.com</a>><br>
</span></div>
<div
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style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>To: </b></span><span
style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Christina
Y Weller <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cyweller@comcast.net"
target="_blank">cyweller@comcast.net</a>><br>
</span></div>
<div
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style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span
style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Re:
[Pyc-waitlist] email test</b><br>
</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks, Christina</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Although I
am pleased to be a 'potential
member' I am MOST disappointed
that as an individual on the
'wait list' I have
less authorized ability to
attend events than I did prior
to submitting my application. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">I have ascertained
that this is , in fact, the
case, based on:</div>
<ul dir="ltr">
<li>
<div> the letter I received,</div>
</li>
<li>
<div> the personal experience
of being 'chastised' by a
few board members when I
attended an event with 2
members who are NOT my
sponsors</div>
</li>
<li>
<div dir="ltr">and the fact
that bylaws state that I can
only attend events with
Cathy Nadeau of Steve
Demarais.</div>
</li>
</ul>
<div dir="ltr">If the bylaws
of PYC had been more clearly
explicit that I could ONLY
attend events as a 'guest ' of
my 2 sponsors, I would NEVER
have applied.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">It would have been
far better for me , to be a
'perpetual guest' than a member
'in waiting'.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">As a 'perpetual
guest' I was able to attend any
event or be on the PYC premises
at any time as long it was with
a PYC member.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">If this had been
clearly stated in the by laws ,
instead of simply being boldly
stated verbally by , in my
opinion, rude PYC board
members, I would NEVER have
applied.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Oh well, I guess
you all received $500 from me
and I receive no
perceived benefit.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Would PYC be able
to allow me to write off the
$500 as a donation?</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">I understand that I
can't get my $500 back;
although, I believe that
legally, I could take PYC to
task based on the adverse
limitations placed on 'wait
list' individuals. However, I
could at least write it off as a
donation from my business -which
I might add, has raised
considerable funds for PYC over
the 3 fashion shows I have done
for PYC.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Sincerely,</div>
<div dir="ltr">Edie Argo</div>
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<div><strong><em><font
color="#0000bf"
face="verdana,
helvetica, sans-serif"
size="4">Edie <font
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"
color="#bf005f">" the
<font color="#0000bf">Present</font>
is the <font
color="#0000bf">Perfect</font>
time !"</font> </font></em></strong></div>
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<hr size="1"> <font
face="Arial"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
Christina Y Weller <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cyweller@comcast.net"
target="_blank">cyweller@comcast.net</a>><br>
<b><span
style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pyc-waitlist@portsmouthyc.org" target="_blank">pyc-waitlist@portsmouthyc.org</a>
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<b><span
style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Friday, December 12, 2014
9:15 AM<br>
<b><span
style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
[Pyc-waitlist] email test<br>
</font> </div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>Hi all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is a test of
the <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pyc-waitlist@portsmouthyc.org" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank">pyc-waitlist@portsmouthyc.org</a>
email list. If you are
on this list, you have
submitted an
application to
Portsmouth Yacht Club,
been interviewed by
the Membership
Committee, and have
been accepted to the
PYC Wait List.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please respond to
this email if you
receive it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Chris</div>
<div><br>
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<div><i><font
face="'Trebuchet
MS'">Christina
Y Weller<br>
4 Tamarind
Lane<br>
Exeter, NH
03833<br>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cyweller@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">cyweller@comcast.net</a><br>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:603-772-8455" value="+16037728455" target="_blank">603-772-8455</a>(h)<br>
<a
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href="tel:603-682-6536" value="+16036826536" target="_blank">603-682-6536</a>(m)</font></i><span
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