From glennwmichael at gmail.com  Tue Jul 17 08:47:33 2018
From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:47:33 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
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Great pictures...looks like the dock is located in the Sahara desert....

G

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Here are some pictures of the dinghy dock at low tide this past weekend.
> The tides this weekend were more extreme than usual, but you can see the
> issue with that last dinghy dock and the rocks. Any you can see how the
> small "T" extension also causes issues with pushing the dinghies even
> closer to shore and further into the mud.
>
> There are 10 dinghies there and 7 under the pier. So there is plenty of
> room to tie up the dinghies even if we removed the short extension, which
> is really just in the way, and the last dock after the pilling.
>
> Roy
>
>
> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
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From adjd at aol.com  Tue Jul 17 12:25:40 2018
From: adjd at aol.com (Arthur Dionne)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:25:40 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
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Greetings,
            As far as I am aware, the small dinghy dock (Dock #19) was purchased and installed in 2016 at a cost of about $4500. At the time that it was installed, it was attached to the end of Dock #17 which is where the longer Dock #18 is now attached. Prior to the present configuration, Dock #18 was positioned in the spot where Dock #19 is presently positioned. The reason for the change in the positions of Dock #18 and Dock #19 was in effort to provide the most space for dinghys on the land side of the dinghy dock area. Obviously, if Dock #18 was in place where Dock #19 is now located it would extend further towards land than Dock #19 does now.
            We have had the problem of the dinghys grounding for a fairly long time and it appears the problem has gotten worse in spite of our efforts as the configuration of the river bottom surrounding the dinghy area has changed as more material (rocks and sand) has decreased the average depthof the dinghy area at low and high tide.
            From my point of view, removing Dock #19 will not appreciable help the situation. If it is decided to remove Dock #19, we will have to (1) store Dock #19 in our parking area or (2) sell Dock #19. Storing Dock #19 will result in losing a parking space in the parking lot and selling Dock #19 will most likely result in a financial loss. Whatever option we choose will not appreciable solve the dinghy grounding problem.
Regards,
Art
P.S. Sketch of the configuration of PYC’s docks is attached.



-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com>
To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
Sent: Mon, Jul 16, 2018 9:00 pm
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide



Here are some pictures of the dinghy dock at low tide this past weekend. The tides this weekend were more extreme than usual, but you can see the issue with that last dinghy dock and the rocks. Any you can see how the small "T" extension also causes issues with pushing the dinghies even closer to shore and further into the mud.


There are 10 dinghies there and 7 under the pier. So there is plenty of room to tie up the dinghies even if we removed the short extension, which is really just in the way, and the last dock after the pilling. 


Roy





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From dgingras at comcast.net  Tue Jul 17 12:47:16 2018
From: dgingras at comcast.net (Dan Gingras)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:47:16 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
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Art,  

 

   I think he was talking about the little stub dock which is perpendicular to the two longer docks.  

 

Dan

 

 

From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> On Behalf Of Arthur Dionne
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:26 PM
To: board at portsmouthyc.org
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide

 

Greetings,

            As far as I am aware, the small dinghy dock (Dock #19) was purchased and installed in 2016 at a cost of about $4500. At the time that it was installed, it was attached to the end of Dock #17 which is where the longer Dock #18 is now attached. Prior to the present configuration, Dock #18 was positioned in the spot where Dock #19 is presently positioned. The reason for the change in the positions of Dock #18 and Dock #19 was in effort to provide the most space for dinghys on the land side of the dinghy dock area. Obviously, if Dock #18 was in place where Dock #19 is now located it would extend further towards land than Dock #19 does now.

            We have had the problem of the dinghys grounding for a fairly long time and it appears the problem has gotten worse in spite of our efforts as the configuration of the river bottom surrounding the dinghy area has changed as more material (rocks and sand) has decreased the average depthof the dinghy area at low and high tide.

            From my point of view, removing Dock #19 will not appreciable help the situation. If it is decided to remove Dock #19, we will have to (1) store Dock #19 in our parking area or (2) sell Dock #19. Storing Dock #19 will result in losing a parking space in the parking lot and selling Dock #19 will most likely result in a financial loss. Whatever option we choose will not appreciable solve the dinghy grounding problem.

Regards,

Art

P.S. Sketch of the configuration of PYC’s docks is attached.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com <mailto:roysail at hotmail.com> >
To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org <mailto:board at portsmouthyc.org> >
Sent: Mon, Jul 16, 2018 9:00 pm
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide

Here are some pictures of the dinghy dock at low tide this past weekend. The tides this weekend were more extreme than usual, but you can see the issue with that last dinghy dock and the rocks. Any you can see how the small "T" extension also causes issues with pushing the dinghies even closer to shore and further into the mud.

 

There are 10 dinghies there and 7 under the pier. So there is plenty of room to tie up the dinghies even if we removed the short extension, which is really just in the way, and the last dock after the pilling. 

 

Roy

 

 

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From adjd at aol.com  Tue Jul 17 13:14:25 2018
From: adjd at aol.com (Arthur Dionne)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:14:25 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
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Dan,
The little stub dock is Dock #19
Art



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gingras <dgingras at comcast.net>
To: 'Board of Directors' <board at portsmouthyc.org>
Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide



Art,  
 
   I think he was talking about the little stub dock which is perpendicular to the two longer docks.  
 
Dan
 
 
From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> On Behalf Of Arthur Dionne
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:26 PM
To: board at portsmouthyc.org
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
 

Greetings,

            As far as I am aware, the small dinghy dock (Dock #19) was purchased and installed in 2016 at a cost of about $4500. At the time that it was installed, it was attached to the end of Dock #17 which is where the longer Dock #18 is now attached. Prior to the present configuration, Dock #18 was positioned in the spot where Dock #19 is presently positioned. The reason for the change in the positions of Dock #18 and Dock #19 was in effort to provide the most space for dinghys on the land side of the dinghy dock area. Obviously, if Dock #18 was in place where Dock #19 is now located it would extend further towards land than Dock #19 does now.

            We have had the problem of the dinghys grounding for a fairly long time and it appears the problem has gotten worse in spite of our efforts as the configuration of the river bottom surrounding the dinghy area has changed as more material (rocks and sand) has decreased the average depthof the dinghy area at low and high tide.

            From my point of view, removing Dock #19 will not appreciable help the situation. If it is decided to remove Dock #19, we will have to (1) store Dock #19 in our parking area or (2) sell Dock #19. Storing Dock #19 will result in losing a parking space in the parking lot and selling Dock #19 will most likely result in a financial loss. Whatever option we choose will not appreciable solve the dinghy grounding problem.

Regards,

Art

P.S. Sketch of the configuration of PYC’s docks is attached.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com>
To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
Sent: Mon, Jul 16, 2018 9:00 pm
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide


Here are some pictures of the dinghy dock at low tide this past weekend. The tides this weekend were more extreme than usual, but you can see the issue with that last dinghy dock and the rocks. Any you can see how the small "T" extension also causes issues with pushing the dinghies even closer to shore and further into the mud.

 

There are 10 dinghies there and 7 under the pier. So there is plenty of room to tie up the dinghies even if we removed the short extension, which is really just in the way, and the last dock after the pilling. 

 

Roy

 

 


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From dgingras at comcast.net  Tue Jul 17 13:33:12 2018
From: dgingras at comcast.net (Dan Gingras)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:33:12 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
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Thanks… I actually didn’t know that.

 

 

From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> On Behalf Of Arthur Dionne
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 3:14 PM
To: board at portsmouthyc.org
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide

 

Dan, 

The little stub dock is Dock #19

Art



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gingras <dgingras at comcast.net <mailto:dgingras at comcast.net> >
To: 'Board of Directors' <board at portsmouthyc.org <mailto:board at portsmouthyc.org> >
Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide

Art,  

 

   I think he was talking about the little stub dock which is perpendicular to the two longer docks.  

 

Dan

 

 

From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org <mailto:bounces at portsmouthyc.org> > On Behalf Of Arthur Dionne
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:26 PM
To: board at portsmouthyc.org <mailto:board at portsmouthyc.org> 
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide

 

Greetings,

            As far as I am aware, the small dinghy dock (Dock #19) was purchased and installed in 2016 at a cost of about $4500. At the time that it was installed, it was attached to the end of Dock #17 which is where the longer Dock #18 is now attached. Prior to the present configuration, Dock #18 was positioned in the spot where Dock #19 is presently positioned. The reason for the change in the positions of Dock #18 and Dock #19 was in effort to provide the most space for dinghys on the land side of the dinghy dock area. Obviously, if Dock #18 was in place where Dock #19 is now located it would extend further towards land than Dock #19 does now.

            We have had the problem of the dinghys grounding for a fairly long time and it appears the problem has gotten worse in spite of our efforts as the configuration of the river bottom surrounding the dinghy area has changed as more material (rocks and sand) has decreased the average depthof the dinghy area at low and high tide.

            From my point of view, removing Dock #19 will not appreciable help the situation. If it is decided to remove Dock #19, we will have to (1) store Dock #19 in our parking area or (2) sell Dock #19. Storing Dock #19 will result in losing a parking space in the parking lot and selling Dock #19 will most likely result in a financial loss. Whatever option we choose will not appreciable solve the dinghy grounding problem.

Regards,

Art

P.S. Sketch of the configuration of PYC’s docks is attached.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com <mailto:roysail at hotmail.com> >
To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org <mailto:board at portsmouthyc.org> >
Sent: Mon, Jul 16, 2018 9:00 pm
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide

Here are some pictures of the dinghy dock at low tide this past weekend. The tides this weekend were more extreme than usual, but you can see the issue with that last dinghy dock and the rocks. Any you can see how the small "T" extension also causes issues with pushing the dinghies even closer to shore and further into the mud.

 

There are 10 dinghies there and 7 under the pier. So there is plenty of room to tie up the dinghies even if we removed the short extension, which is really just in the way, and the last dock after the pilling. 

 

Roy

 

 

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From glennwmichael at gmail.com  Tue Jul 17 13:57:39 2018
From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:57:39 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
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I am the Sgt. Schultz of dinghy's...I know nothing...

Thanks,

G

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:33 PM, Dan Gingras <dgingras at comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks… I actually didn’t know that.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> *On Behalf Of *Arthur
> Dionne
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 3:14 PM
>
> *To:* board at portsmouthyc.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
>
>
>
> Dan,
>
> The little stub dock is Dock #19
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Gingras <dgingras at comcast.net>
> To: 'Board of Directors' <board at portsmouthyc.org>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 2:48 pm
> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
>
> Art,
>
>
>
>    I think he was talking about the little stub dock which is
> perpendicular to the two longer docks.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> *On Behalf Of *Arthur
> Dionne
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:26 PM
> *To:* board at portsmouthyc.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
>             As far as I am aware, the small dinghy dock (Dock #19) was
> purchased and installed in 2016 at a cost of about $4500. At the time that
> it was installed, it was attached to the end of Dock #17 which is where the
> longer Dock #18 is now attached. Prior to the present configuration, Dock
> #18 was positioned in the spot where Dock #19 is presently positioned. The
> reason for the change in the positions of Dock #18 and Dock #19 was in
> effort to provide the most space for dinghys on the land side of the dinghy
> dock area. Obviously, if Dock #18 was in place where Dock #19 is now
> located it would extend further towards land than Dock #19 does now.
>
>             We have had the problem of the dinghys grounding for a fairly
> long time and it appears the problem has gotten worse in spite of our
> efforts as the configuration of the river bottom surrounding the dinghy
> area has changed as more material (rocks and sand) has decreased the
> average depthof the dinghy area at low and high tide.
>
>             From my point of view, removing Dock #19 will not appreciable
> help the situation. If it is decided to remove Dock #19, we will have to
> (1) store Dock #19 in our parking area or (2) sell Dock #19. Storing Dock
> #19 will result in losing a parking space in the parking lot and selling
> Dock #19 will most likely result in a financial loss. Whatever option we
> choose will not appreciable solve the dinghy grounding problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Art
>
> P.S. Sketch of the configuration of PYC’s docks is attached.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com>
> To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
> Sent: Mon, Jul 16, 2018 9:00 pm
> Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
>
> Here are some pictures of the dinghy dock at low tide this past weekend.
> The tides this weekend were more extreme than usual, but you can see the
> issue with that last dinghy dock and the rocks. Any you can see how the
> small "T" extension also causes issues with pushing the dinghies even
> closer to shore and further into the mud.
>
>
>
> There are 10 dinghies there and 7 under the pier. So there is plenty of
> room to tie up the dinghies even if we removed the short extension, which
> is really just in the way, and the last dock after the pilling.
>
>
>
> Roy
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>
>
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From roysail at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 17 20:09:55 2018
From: roysail at hotmail.com (Roy Briscoe)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:09:55 +0000
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide
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Yep that time line is accurate from what I recall. The unfortunate and unforeseen problem is the extension dock, #18, attached past the piling now puts any dinghy attached to #18 on the rocks at low tide and it blocks any dinghy tied up closer the pier from getting out.

I've attached some pictures from a "normal" low tide. You can see that the dinghies attached to the #16 & #17 are floating at low tide, but the ones attached to #18 are high and dry. Note the "Hover Craft" photo.

We could sell #18 & #19 to a PYC member or Craigslist it. Or move #18 to the end of #26 and have 2 spots for the launches, but it might make getting out of the face dock slips a bit tight, but it might be OK. And I think we would still need to move some rocks but maybe a lot less of them so they can get around the piling.

Not sure what the answer(s) is.

Roy


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________________________________
From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Arthur Dionne <adjd at aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:25 PM
To: board at portsmouthyc.org
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide

Greetings,
            As far as I am aware, the small dinghy dock (Dock #19) was purchased and installed in 2016 at a cost of about $4500. At the time that it was installed, it was attached to the end of Dock #17 which is where the longer Dock #18 is now attached. Prior to the present configuration, Dock #18 was positioned in the spot where Dock #19 is presently positioned. The reason for the change in the positions of Dock #18 and Dock #19 was in effort to provide the most space for dinghys on the land side of the dinghy dock area. Obviously, if Dock #18 was in place where Dock #19 is now located it would extend further towards land than Dock #19 does now.
            We have had the problem of the dinghys grounding for a fairly long time and it appears the problem has gotten worse in spite of our efforts as the configuration of the river bottom surrounding the dinghy area has changed as more material (rocks and sand) has decreased the average depthof the dinghy area at low and high tide.
            From my point of view, removing Dock #19 will not appreciable help the situation. If it is decided to remove Dock #19, we will have to (1) store Dock #19 in our parking area or (2) sell Dock #19. Storing Dock #19 will result in losing a parking space in the parking lot and selling Dock #19 will most likely result in a financial loss. Whatever option we choose will not appreciable solve the dinghy grounding problem.
Regards,
Art
P.S. Sketch of the configuration of PYC’s docks is attached.


-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com>
To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
Sent: Mon, Jul 16, 2018 9:00 pm
Subject: [Board-2018] Dinghy Dock at an low tide

Here are some pictures of the dinghy dock at low tide this past weekend. The tides this weekend were more extreme than usual, but you can see the issue with that last dinghy dock and the rocks. Any you can see how the small "T" extension also causes issues with pushing the dinghies even closer to shore and further into the mud.

There are 10 dinghies there and 7 under the pier. So there is plenty of room to tie up the dinghies even if we removed the short extension, which is really just in the way, and the last dock after the pilling.

Roy


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