From glennwmichael at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 08:24:08 2018 From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:24:08 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position Message-ID: Good Morning, Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. Thanks for your time and effort. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Steward Search.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 11399 bytes Desc: not available URL: From info at blueberrybayfarm.com Fri Apr 27 08:31:28 2018 From: info at blueberrybayfarm.com (Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:31:28 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01b301d3de34$6eedcbe0$4cc963a0$@blueberrybayfarm.com> Glenn: I definitely go for option 2. Ron From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Michael Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 10:24 AM To: Board of Directors Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position Good Morning, Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. Thanks for your time and effort. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsmall.105 at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 09:04:11 2018 From: jsmall.105 at gmail.com (Jeremy Small) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:04:11 +0000 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: <01b301d3de34$6eedcbe0$4cc963a0$@blueberrybayfarm.com> References: <01b301d3de34$6eedcbe0$4cc963a0$@blueberrybayfarm.com> Message-ID: Even though I am fully in the Frieda camp am firmly believe she should be our next Steward. It feels like we are being help hostage by staff for the 2nd time and I am not ok with that. Jeremy Small On Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 10:32 AM Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm < info at blueberrybayfarm.com> wrote: > Glenn: > > I definitely go for option 2. > > Ron > > > > *From:* Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] *On Behalf Of *Glenn > Michael > *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 10:24 AM > *To:* Board of Directors > *Subject:* [Board-2018] Steward Position > > > > Good Morning, > > > > Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the > steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. > > > > Thanks for your time and effort. > > > > Glenn > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott.blidberg at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 09:21:58 2018 From: scott.blidberg at gmail.com (Scott Blidberg) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: References: <01b301d3de34$6eedcbe0$4cc963a0$@blueberrybayfarm.com> Message-ID: Hi all, These *exact* points were brought up in past board meetings. I am of the belief that it should not be the role of the Board of Directors to push things down the road until someone effectively forces our hand. In our last meeting I recall opening up discussion on the consideration of if the only issue with naming Freida as the next Steward was a financial one, and if we should explore negotiating with her to see if we could come to an agreement prior to opening up the position. After discussion, it was determined that the *board* wanted to proceed with a search. While I may not have been in agreement with that decision (as noted by my vote at the time) it was the *Board’s* decision, and as such should be supported. This has nothing to do with my opinion of Jerry or with how suited I believe Freida is for this role – I believe I have made that abundantly clear at previous meetings. My concern is that we have become reactionary in our decision making (or lack thereof) and are effectively letting the staff of the club dictate far too many decisions for us (conceding to unrealistic ultimatums for increased pay, adding qualifiers to retirements based on who we choose to succeed, etc…). In terms of the decision to bring on Freida, I am very much in support of her as the next Steward of the club. On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 11:04 AM Jeremy Small wrote: > Even though I am fully in the Frieda camp am firmly believe she should be > our next Steward. It feels like we are being help hostage by staff for the > 2nd time and I am not ok with that. > > Jeremy Small > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 10:32 AM Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm < > info at blueberrybayfarm.com> wrote: > >> Glenn: >> >> I definitely go for option 2. >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> *From:* Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] *On Behalf Of *Glenn >> Michael >> *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 10:24 AM >> *To:* Board of Directors >> *Subject:* [Board-2018] Steward Position >> >> >> >> Good Morning, >> >> >> >> Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the >> steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your time and effort. >> >> >> >> Glenn >> > -- Scott Blidberg scott.blidberg at gmail.com Phone: 603.674.1179 http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottblidberg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgingras at comcast.net Fri Apr 27 13:27:09 2018 From: dgingras at comcast.net (Dan Gingras) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:27:09 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <041301d3de5d$bc912530$35b36f90$@comcast.net> The primary issue here is “who is running the organization”, the board or the staff? I like Jerry immensely and I think Frieda would do a great job, but the decision is not theirs. I don’t understand why Jerry wants to bequeath his job to his successor. He’s decided to retire, and as far as I’m concerned that’s cast in stone. I’m OK with Frieda, but I too do not like ultimatums. However I’d be OK with Frieda if she agrees to our salary guidelines, and if not, then we should continue our search. The danger here is that we have disgruntled employees for this season, and that’s not acceptable. We’re a bit behind the curve on this one! Dan From: Board On Behalf Of Glenn Michael Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 10:24 AM To: Board of Directors Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position Good Morning, Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. Thanks for your time and effort. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glennwmichael at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 14:01:30 2018 From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:01:30 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks so far for the comments. I agree that it appears that the "inmates are running the asylum", but at the end of the day the BOD has the final word. This year has been interesting so far, in that we have had significant personnel changes to deal with, and we are also trying to get the salary picture into a framework that will benefit the club in the future. In some respects we may be behind the power curve, but this most recent revelation was not on the horizon, and the plan that was voted on was certainly accomplished in a timely manner to replace the steward. As far as reactionary decision making, the only decision that fits into that category is one that I made, not the board, so I disagree that the BOD has been reactionary. Plus, a lot of the issues that we are dealing with have been pushed down the road in the past, and I thank this BOD for stepping up and taking action. Enough of my banter. I will await further feedback, and this issue will be on the next meeting agenda. We still have time for either plan to play out. Thanks again, Glenn On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Glenn Michael wrote: > Good Morning, > > Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the > steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. > > Thanks for your time and effort. > > Glenn > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adjd at aol.com Fri Apr 27 14:09:34 2018 From: adjd at aol.com (Arthur Dionne) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:09:34 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: <041301d3de5d$bc912530$35b36f90$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <16308b9a5da-c86-199c2@webjas-vae200.srv.aolmail.net> The comments made by Dan, Scott and Jeremy are exactly on point in that it appears that we are following, not leading. The first example is our reaction to the Steward’s information that the Dockmaster would “walk” if he didn’t receive $20/hr. Without even talking to the Dockmaster about his reported demand we gave the Dockmaster what he demanded! The second example is that while we have voted to advertise for a new Steward, it now appears we are going to once again change our plans and accept Freida as the “Steward in training” so that our Steward will retire at the end of the year as he advised us that he would do! Once again, we have not talked to Freida with regard to her compensation or her availability to fully function as our present Steward functions. If we accept Option 2 and pay her at the rate of $18/hr. she will no doubt want to be paid for every hour that she is at PYC doing her dockhand job and every hour she is in a “Steward training mode” outside of her dockhand hours. This could be very expensive for PYC. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in trouble! Art -----Original Message----- From: Dan Gingras To: 'Board of Directors' Sent: Fri, Apr 27, 2018 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Steward Position The primary issue here is “who is running the organization”, the board or the staff? I like Jerry immensely and I think Frieda would do a great job, but the decision is not theirs. I don’t understand why Jerry wants to bequeath his job to his successor. He’s decided to retire, and as far as I’m concerned that’s cast in stone. I’m OK with Frieda, but I too do not like ultimatums. However I’d be OK with Frieda if she agrees to our salary guidelines, and if not, then we should continue our search. The danger here is that we have disgruntled employees for this season, and that’s not acceptable. We’re a bit behind the curve on this one! Dan From: Board On Behalf Of Glenn Michael Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 10:24 AM To: Board of Directors Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position Good Morning, Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. Thanks for your time and effort. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at blueberrybayfarm.com Fri Apr 27 14:31:57 2018 From: info at blueberrybayfarm.com (Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:31:57 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0af29c77-28aa-5be1-a360-00ca012aa498@blueberrybayfarm.com> I agree Glenn, we are not reactionary, and certainly should not be offended by Jerry's kind _offer_ (not an ultimatum) to stay on to assist in training someone entirely new the following year. It is my understanding no offers have been made to Frieda or Mike as yet so we really don't know if they will be accepting, demanding or otherwise. Frankly, I think the inmates are restless at this point not knowing where they stand. And with regard to Frieda amassing an enormous paycheck, since we have potentially so many dockhands (at lower rates of pay), simply reduce the time Frieda spends on the dock by the amount of training time she needs (probably very little; what's the big deal?). Let's make an offer to these people and then see whether they are boxing us into a corner (which I doubt; I think they feel they have a pretty good deal at the club), or let them walk. Ron On 4/27/2018 4:01 PM, Glenn Michael wrote: > Thanks so far for the comments. I agree that it appears that the > "inmates are running the asylum", but at the end of the day the BOD > has the final word. This year has been interesting so far, in that we > have had significant personnel changes to deal with, and we are also > trying to get the salary picture into a framework that will benefit > the club in the future. In some respects we may be behind the power > curve, but this most recent revelation was not on the horizon, and the > plan that was voted on was certainly accomplished in a timely manner > to replace the steward. > As far as reactionary decision making, the only decision that fits > into that category is one that I made, not the board, so I disagree > that the BOD has been reactionary. Plus, a lot of the issues that we > are dealing with have been pushed down the road in the past, and I > thank this BOD for stepping up and taking action. > Enough of my banter. I will await further feedback, and this issue > will be on the next meeting agenda. We still have time for either > plan to play out. > > Thanks again, > > Glenn > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Glenn Michael > > wrote: > > Good Morning, > > Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted > on the steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. > > Thanks for your time and effort. > > Glenn > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Auto signature copy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 133438 bytes Desc: not available URL: From glennwmichael at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 14:56:42 2018 From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:56:42 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: <0af29c77-28aa-5be1-a360-00ca012aa498@blueberrybayfarm.com> References: <0af29c77-28aa-5be1-a360-00ca012aa498@blueberrybayfarm.com> Message-ID: This is better than I hoped for.....great feedback on an important issue. We can do remote meetings (only kidding). All comments are on point and this is why we have a BOD and not a dictator. No steward decisions have been made other than to form the search committee. The only reason I sent info out is that I did not want the BOD to be told about the new decision made by Jerry 2 or 3 months from now. Better to deal with it at the present time. Again, my attachment was ONLY to provide new information and to throw out some issues that we may want to think about. Thanks again and I appreciate all that we are doing, Glenn On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm < info at blueberrybayfarm.com> wrote: > I agree Glenn, we are not reactionary, and certainly should not be > offended by Jerry's kind *offer* (not an ultimatum) to stay on to assist > in training someone entirely new the following year. It is my > understanding no offers have been made to Frieda or Mike as yet so we > really don't know if they will be accepting, demanding or otherwise. > Frankly, I think the inmates are restless at this point not knowing where > they stand. And with regard to Frieda amassing an enormous paycheck, since > we have potentially so many dockhands (at lower rates of pay), simply > reduce the time Frieda spends on the dock by the amount of training time > she needs (probably very little; what's the big deal?). Let's make an > offer to these people and then see whether they are boxing us into a corner > (which I doubt; I think they feel they have a pretty good deal at the > club), or let them walk. > Ron > > > > > On 4/27/2018 4:01 PM, Glenn Michael wrote: > > Thanks so far for the comments. I agree that it appears that the > "inmates are running the asylum", but at the end of the day the BOD has the > final word. This year has been interesting so far, in that we have had > significant personnel changes to deal with, and we are also trying to get > the salary picture into a framework that will benefit the club in the > future. In some respects we may be behind the power curve, but this most > recent revelation was not on the horizon, and the plan that was voted on > was certainly accomplished in a timely manner to replace the steward. > As far as reactionary decision making, the only decision that fits into > that category is one that I made, not the board, so I disagree that the BOD > has been reactionary. Plus, a lot of the issues that we are dealing with > have been pushed down the road in the past, and I thank this BOD for > stepping up and taking action. > Enough of my banter. I will await further feedback, and this issue will > be on the next meeting agenda. We still have time for either plan to play > out. > > Thanks again, > > Glenn > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Glenn Michael > wrote: > >> Good Morning, >> >> Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the >> steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. >> >> Thanks for your time and effort. >> >> Glenn >> > > > > -- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Auto signature copy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 133438 bytes Desc: not available URL: From info at blueberrybayfarm.com Fri Apr 27 15:21:22 2018 From: info at blueberrybayfarm.com (Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:21:22 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: References: <0af29c77-28aa-5be1-a360-00ca012aa498@blueberrybayfarm.com> Message-ID: <020c01d3de6d$b1c29fc0$1547df40$@blueberrybayfarm.com> Glenn: Hey folks, May is one week away! Go ahead and advertise for candidates, but, again, let’s make offers to these people (with a lot of experience and thus requiring much less training) without delay(e.g. before the next meeting) so we know where we/they stand. Then we can be clearly in the driver’s seat, which unquestionably we should be. Ron From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Michael Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:57 PM To: Board of Directors Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Steward Position This is better than I hoped for.....great feedback on an important issue. We can do remote meetings (only kidding). All comments are on point and this is why we have a BOD and not a dictator. No steward decisions have been made other than to form the search committee. The only reason I sent info out is that I did not want the BOD to be told about the new decision made by Jerry 2 or 3 months from now. Better to deal with it at the present time. Again, my attachment was ONLY to provide new information and to throw out some issues that we may want to think about. Thanks again and I appreciate all that we are doing, Glenn On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm > wrote: I agree Glenn, we are not reactionary, and certainly should not be offended by Jerry's kind offer (not an ultimatum) to stay on to assist in training someone entirely new the following year. It is my understanding no offers have been made to Frieda or Mike as yet so we really don't know if they will be accepting, demanding or otherwise. Frankly, I think the inmates are restless at this point not knowing where they stand. And with regard to Frieda amassing an enormous paycheck, since we have potentially so many dockhands (at lower rates of pay), simply reduce the time Frieda spends on the dock by the amount of training time she needs (probably very little; what's the big deal?). Let's make an offer to these people and then see whether they are boxing us into a corner (which I doubt; I think they feel they have a pretty good deal at the club), or let them walk. Ron On 4/27/2018 4:01 PM, Glenn Michael wrote: Thanks so far for the comments. I agree that it appears that the "inmates are running the asylum", but at the end of the day the BOD has the final word. This year has been interesting so far, in that we have had significant personnel changes to deal with, and we are also trying to get the salary picture into a framework that will benefit the club in the future. In some respects we may be behind the power curve, but this most recent revelation was not on the horizon, and the plan that was voted on was certainly accomplished in a timely manner to replace the steward. As far as reactionary decision making, the only decision that fits into that category is one that I made, not the board, so I disagree that the BOD has been reactionary. Plus, a lot of the issues that we are dealing with have been pushed down the road in the past, and I thank this BOD for stepping up and taking action. Enough of my banter. I will await further feedback, and this issue will be on the next meeting agenda. We still have time for either plan to play out. Thanks again, Glenn On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Glenn Michael > wrote: Good Morning, Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. Thanks for your time and effort. Glenn -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What will she be doing during those hours? * She doesn't have a launch drivers license, yet * Will she be shadowing Jerry all the time or just part of the time? * Will she be covering all/some of the events assisting Jerry? * Which could "reduce" how many we need at an event * Will she be managing some of the events as part of her training? * Will she be covering as a bartender, dock hand and maybe a Dockmaster when Mike isn't around? 4. Will we be able to reduce how many other staff we hire because she will be around? 5. If she is offered the job and accepts, when will she be getting the launch drivers license? * We have been asking this question since late last summer! * Can she just renew or does she need to get recertified? * And who pays for this? 6. Regarding offering the position as of Nov 1 * Does this mean we wait until Nov 1 to offer her the position or are we offering her the position now but it is effective Nov 1? Also note: If Frieda is hired as the Steward, Jerry would like to be a dock hand/launch driver and continue working part time. We have a draft of the Job descriptions that we will be sending out shortly. Roy Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: Board on behalf of Glenn Michael Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:56 PM To: Board of Directors Subject: Re: [Board-2018] Steward Position This is better than I hoped for.....great feedback on an important issue. We can do remote meetings (only kidding). All comments are on point and this is why we have a BOD and not a dictator. No steward decisions have been made other than to form the search committee. The only reason I sent info out is that I did not want the BOD to be told about the new decision made by Jerry 2 or 3 months from now. Better to deal with it at the present time. Again, my attachment was ONLY to provide new information and to throw out some issues that we may want to think about. Thanks again and I appreciate all that we are doing, Glenn On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm > wrote: I agree Glenn, we are not reactionary, and certainly should not be offended by Jerry's kind offer (not an ultimatum) to stay on to assist in training someone entirely new the following year. It is my understanding no offers have been made to Frieda or Mike as yet so we really don't know if they will be accepting, demanding or otherwise. Frankly, I think the inmates are restless at this point not knowing where they stand. And with regard to Frieda amassing an enormous paycheck, since we have potentially so many dockhands (at lower rates of pay), simply reduce the time Frieda spends on the dock by the amount of training time she needs (probably very little; what's the big deal?). Let's make an offer to these people and then see whether they are boxing us into a corner (which I doubt; I think they feel they have a pretty good deal at the club), or let them walk. Ron On 4/27/2018 4:01 PM, Glenn Michael wrote: Thanks so far for the comments. I agree that it appears that the "inmates are running the asylum", but at the end of the day the BOD has the final word. This year has been interesting so far, in that we have had significant personnel changes to deal with, and we are also trying to get the salary picture into a framework that will benefit the club in the future. In some respects we may be behind the power curve, but this most recent revelation was not on the horizon, and the plan that was voted on was certainly accomplished in a timely manner to replace the steward. As far as reactionary decision making, the only decision that fits into that category is one that I made, not the board, so I disagree that the BOD has been reactionary. Plus, a lot of the issues that we are dealing with have been pushed down the road in the past, and I thank this BOD for stepping up and taking action. Enough of my banter. I will await further feedback, and this issue will be on the next meeting agenda. We still have time for either plan to play out. Thanks again, Glenn On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Glenn Michael > wrote: Good Morning, Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. Thanks for your time and effort. Glenn -- [cid:part2.CBD4CC1F.E707ABC3 at blueberrybayfarm.com] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What will she be doing during those hours? > - She doesn't have a launch drivers license, yet > - Will she be shadowing Jerry all the time or just part of the time? > - Will she be covering all/some of the events assisting Jerry? > - Which could "reduce" how many we need at an event > - Will she be managing some of the events as part of her training? > - Will she be covering as a bartender, dock hand and maybe a > Dockmaster when Mike isn't around? > 4. Will we be able to reduce how many other staff we hire because she > will be around? > 5. If she is offered the job and accepts, when will she be getting the > launch drivers license? > - We have been asking this question since late last summer! > - Can she just renew or does she need to get recertified? > - And who pays for this? > 6. Regarding offering the position as of Nov 1 > - Does this mean we wait until Nov 1 to offer her the position or > are we offering her the position now but it is effective Nov 1? > > Also note: > If Frieda is hired as the Steward, Jerry would like to be a dock > hand/launch driver and continue working part time. > > We have a draft of the Job descriptions that we will be sending out > shortly. > > Roy > > > Sent from Outlook > ------------------------------ > *From:* Board on behalf of Glenn Michael > > *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 8:56 PM > *To:* Board of Directors > > *Subject:* Re: [Board-2018] Steward Position > This is better than I hoped for.....great feedback on an important issue. > We can do remote meetings (only kidding). All comments are on point and > this is why we have a BOD and not a dictator. > > No steward decisions have been made other than to form the search > committee. The only reason I sent info out is that I did not want the BOD > to be told about the new decision made by Jerry 2 or 3 months from now. > Better to deal with it at the present time. Again, my attachment was ONLY > to provide new information and to throw out some issues that we may want to > think about. > > Thanks again and I appreciate all that we are doing, > > Glenn > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm < > info at blueberrybayfarm.com> wrote: > > I agree Glenn, we are not reactionary, and certainly should not be > offended by Jerry's kind *offer* (not an ultimatum) to stay on to assist > in training someone entirely new the following year. It is my > understanding no offers have been made to Frieda or Mike as yet so we > really don't know if they will be accepting, demanding or otherwise. > Frankly, I think the inmates are restless at this point not knowing where > they stand. And with regard to Frieda amassing an enormous paycheck, since > we have potentially so many dockhands (at lower rates of pay), simply > reduce the time Frieda spends on the dock by the amount of training time > she needs (probably very little; what's the big deal?). Let's make an > offer to these people and then see whether they are boxing us into a corner > (which I doubt; I think they feel they have a pretty good deal at the > club), or let them walk. > Ron > > > > > On 4/27/2018 4:01 PM, Glenn Michael wrote: > > Thanks so far for the comments. I agree that it appears that the > "inmates are running the asylum", but at the end of the day the BOD has the > final word. This year has been interesting so far, in that we have had > significant personnel changes to deal with, and we are also trying to get > the salary picture into a framework that will benefit the club in the > future. In some respects we may be behind the power curve, but this most > recent revelation was not on the horizon, and the plan that was voted on > was certainly accomplished in a timely manner to replace the steward. > As far as reactionary decision making, the only decision that fits into > that category is one that I made, not the board, so I disagree that the BOD > has been reactionary. Plus, a lot of the issues that we are dealing with > have been pushed down the road in the past, and I thank this BOD for > stepping up and taking action. > Enough of my banter. I will await further feedback, and this issue will > be on the next meeting agenda. We still have time for either plan to play > out. > > Thanks again, > > Glenn > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Glenn Michael > wrote: > > Good Morning, > > Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the > steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. > > Thanks for your time and effort. > > Glenn > > > > > -- > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Auto signature copy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 133438 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pdowey at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 19:28:56 2018 From: pdowey at gmail.com (Pat Dowey) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 21:28:56 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] Steward Position In-Reply-To: References: <0af29c77-28aa-5be1-a360-00ca012aa498@blueberrybayfarm.com> Message-ID: Good evening all, I appreciate being able to read all of these comments at once having been away from my email today. Thank you for the job descriptions, Roy (and Pat). The one main complaint I have heard from members about the staff is that they are not appropriately supervised or directed to complete tasks around the Club. I think Freida is lovely and would probably serve us well as the Steward. Has she had supervisory responsibility and is that one of her strengths? Also, either Freida is ready, willing and able to be the Steward with minimal training (general consensus) or she needs lots of training on the details of running the clubhouse, staff payroll and supervision. etc (Jerry). Jerry told me earlier this week that Freida has to start at the beginning of the process to get her launch license because it has been expired for 5 years. I am not concerned that staff (Freida) are not able to drive the launch but what level of liability does the Club have if there is any kind of incident? Does our insurance policy cover an unlicensed launch driver? Again, I support Glenn/Wes having direct conversations with the staff and settling the terms of employment. It seems inappropriate that Jerry is 'negotiating' for the rest of the staff and positioning himself for a subordinate job in 2019. In my experience, when an organization likes how things are being run and want it to continue in the same direction, new hires are from within. If the organization wants or sees an opportunity for change/improvement, new hires are from outside the current staff. Given this point of view, it seems (with a few tweaks) the BOD and members are happy with the way things are being done at PYC. Hiring Freida might send that message and stabilize some of the unrest in the staff. Hoping to see most of you tomorrow at docks-in. Best, Pat On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Jeremy Small wrote: > I think it would be very hard for any Steward if Jerry is still around. > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 5:53 PM Roy Briscoe wrote: > >> I have a couple of questions regarding Frieda and what the plan will be >> for option 2: >> >> 1. How many hours will she be expecting to work in a week? >> - Will this effect our current proposed 2018 payroll budget? >> 2. What will be her job description? >> - Is she a dockhand outside the pay steps? >> - Is it a new special job description? >> 3. What will she be doing during those hours? >> - She doesn't have a launch drivers license, yet >> - Will she be shadowing Jerry all the time or just part of the >> time? >> - Will she be covering all/some of the events assisting Jerry? >> - Which could "reduce" how many we need at an event >> - Will she be managing some of the events as part of her training? >> - Will she be covering as a bartender, dock hand and maybe a >> Dockmaster when Mike isn't around? >> 4. Will we be able to reduce how many other staff we hire because she >> will be around? >> 5. If she is offered the job and accepts, when will she be getting >> the launch drivers license? >> - We have been asking this question since late last summer! >> - Can she just renew or does she need to get recertified? >> - And who pays for this? >> 6. Regarding offering the position as of Nov 1 >> - Does this mean we wait until Nov 1 to offer her the position or >> are we offering her the position now but it is effective Nov 1? >> >> Also note: >> If Frieda is hired as the Steward, Jerry would like to be a dock >> hand/launch driver and continue working part time. >> >> We have a draft of the Job descriptions that we will be sending out >> shortly. >> >> Roy >> >> >> Sent from Outlook >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Board on behalf of Glenn >> Michael >> *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 8:56 PM >> *To:* Board of Directors >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Board-2018] Steward Position >> This is better than I hoped for.....great feedback on an important >> issue. We can do remote meetings (only kidding). All comments are on >> point and this is why we have a BOD and not a dictator. >> >> No steward decisions have been made other than to form the search >> committee. The only reason I sent info out is that I did not want the BOD >> to be told about the new decision made by Jerry 2 or 3 months from now. >> Better to deal with it at the present time. Again, my attachment was ONLY >> to provide new information and to throw out some issues that we may want to >> think about. >> >> Thanks again and I appreciate all that we are doing, >> >> Glenn >> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm < >> info at blueberrybayfarm.com> wrote: >> >> I agree Glenn, we are not reactionary, and certainly should not be >> offended by Jerry's kind *offer* (not an ultimatum) to stay on to assist >> in training someone entirely new the following year. It is my >> understanding no offers have been made to Frieda or Mike as yet so we >> really don't know if they will be accepting, demanding or otherwise. >> Frankly, I think the inmates are restless at this point not knowing where >> they stand. And with regard to Frieda amassing an enormous paycheck, since >> we have potentially so many dockhands (at lower rates of pay), simply >> reduce the time Frieda spends on the dock by the amount of training time >> she needs (probably very little; what's the big deal?). Let's make an >> offer to these people and then see whether they are boxing us into a corner >> (which I doubt; I think they feel they have a pretty good deal at the >> club), or let them walk. >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> On 4/27/2018 4:01 PM, Glenn Michael wrote: >> >> Thanks so far for the comments. I agree that it appears that the >> "inmates are running the asylum", but at the end of the day the BOD has the >> final word. This year has been interesting so far, in that we have had >> significant personnel changes to deal with, and we are also trying to get >> the salary picture into a framework that will benefit the club in the >> future. In some respects we may be behind the power curve, but this most >> recent revelation was not on the horizon, and the plan that was voted on >> was certainly accomplished in a timely manner to replace the steward. >> As far as reactionary decision making, the only decision that fits into >> that category is one that I made, not the board, so I disagree that the BOD >> has been reactionary. Plus, a lot of the issues that we are dealing with >> have been pushed down the road in the past, and I thank this BOD for >> stepping up and taking action. >> Enough of my banter. I will await further feedback, and this issue will >> be on the next meeting agenda. We still have time for either plan to play >> out. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Glenn >> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Glenn Michael >> wrote: >> >> Good Morning, >> >> Please read the attachment and give me your input. Since we voted on the >> steward replacement plan, the picture has changed a bit. >> >> Thanks for your time and effort. >> >> Glenn >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Auto signature copy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 133438 bytes Desc: not available URL: