From adjd at aol.com Mon Apr 16 09:30:37 2018 From: adjd at aol.com (Art Dionne) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:30:37 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: $18 is a good number! Art Sent from my iPad > On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:33 PM, Laurie Clark wrote: > > Yes, I think giving Mike all that he asked for is a mistake. $5 more an hour is a lot as everyone else has said. If Mike says no, we have Frieda... as long as she gets her launch license, which I’m sure she will. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Glenn Michael wrote: >> >> Hi Roy, >> >> That would be great if you have time to do it...THANKS!!! >> >> As far as Mike, I am waiting for input from 3 more of the BOD. I think the general feeling is to offer him $18 and see what happens. >> >> Thanks for all of your help and great comments. >> >> Glenn >> >>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Roy Briscoe wrote: >>> Also, what if we offer Mike 17.50 or $18 and see what he says, a bit of negotiation. That gives him room within the pay band for a couple of years and makes it easier for us to grasp. >>> >>> Roy >>> >>> Sent from Outlook >>> From: Board on behalf of Roy Briscoe >>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:49 PM >>> To: Board of Directors >>> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries >>> >>> Do you want me to work with Jerry this week to nail down the job descriptions? >>> >>> Roy >>> >>> Sent from Outlook >>> From: Board on behalf of Glenn Michael >>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:28 PM >>> To: Board of Directors >>> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries >>> >>> Good Morning, >>> >>> All great comments and on point. I do not disagree with the pay rate issue at all, but my only question is this. If Mike does not come back at under $20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few months?? Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find a capable person to be the dock master? >>> >>> As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is reduced. With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term. I completely agree that we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best that we can. Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way of doing this. >>> >>> We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed guidelines for the staff. Do we need something more to get this ball rolling down the road?? >>> >>> No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens. >>> >>> Glenn >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael wrote: >>> Good Morning, >>> >>> Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input from the BOD. This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what we can do within a set budget. As I state in the attachment, paying 2 stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing business. >>> >>> Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per hour. No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource for the club. >>> >>> I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour. This is where we are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he will leave. My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand, other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of season only) this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master. $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke. If any of you have a problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Glenn >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adjd at aol.com Mon Apr 16 09:27:56 2018 From: adjd at aol.com (Art Dionne) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:27:56 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DF4FFD4-5338-41B7-B8E5-5F7E75880B16@aol.com> $18 ls fine! Art Sent from my iPad > On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:33 PM, Laurie Clark wrote: > > Yes, I think giving Mike all that he asked for is a mistake. $5 more an hour is a lot as everyone else has said. If Mike says no, we have Frieda... as long as she gets her launch license, which I’m sure she will. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Glenn Michael wrote: >> >> Hi Roy, >> >> That would be great if you have time to do it...THANKS!!! >> >> As far as Mike, I am waiting for input from 3 more of the BOD. I think the general feeling is to offer him $18 and see what happens. >> >> Thanks for all of your help and great comments. >> >> Glenn >> >>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Roy Briscoe wrote: >>> Also, what if we offer Mike 17.50 or $18 and see what he says, a bit of negotiation. That gives him room within the pay band for a couple of years and makes it easier for us to grasp. >>> >>> Roy >>> >>> Sent from Outlook >>> From: Board on behalf of Roy Briscoe >>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:49 PM >>> To: Board of Directors >>> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries >>> >>> Do you want me to work with Jerry this week to nail down the job descriptions? >>> >>> Roy >>> >>> Sent from Outlook >>> From: Board on behalf of Glenn Michael >>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:28 PM >>> To: Board of Directors >>> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries >>> >>> Good Morning, >>> >>> All great comments and on point. I do not disagree with the pay rate issue at all, but my only question is this. If Mike does not come back at under $20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few months?? Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find a capable person to be the dock master? >>> >>> As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is reduced. With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term. I completely agree that we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best that we can. Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way of doing this. >>> >>> We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed guidelines for the staff. Do we need something more to get this ball rolling down the road?? >>> >>> No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens. >>> >>> Glenn >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael wrote: >>> Good Morning, >>> >>> Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input from the BOD. This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what we can do within a set budget. As I state in the attachment, paying 2 stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing business. >>> >>> Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per hour. No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource for the club. >>> >>> I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour. This is where we are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he will leave. My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand, other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of season only) this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master. $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke. If any of you have a problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Glenn >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glennwmichael at gmail.com Mon Apr 16 17:42:31 2018 From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:42:31 -0400 Subject: [Board-2018] (no subject) Message-ID: Good Evening, Thank you all for the input concerning the pay for Dock Master Mike. The decision has been made to pay him the requested $20 per hr. This is my decision after consulting with the R/C. All of the dockhands except one this year are new, without launch licenses and need training. Additionally, Mike now is the only person that can do the weekly fuel inspections. The most important reason, however, is that I feel that we need to provide the best possible service to our members, and without retaining Mike, this would be very difficult for at least the first two months of the season. Steward Jerry relies on Mike to run the dock, and Mike is an employee that he trusts. As much as many of you will disagree with this decision, this does fit into our pay band for dock master. The new people will not be paid the minimum of $10, but will get $9. The experienced launch driver will not get $16, but $15. This will help offset the pay for Mike. Thank you for your understanding and again, this is my decision. All the best, Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: