From glennwmichael at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 09:28:29 2018
From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:28:29 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
In-Reply-To: <CAC7tJWZwXaNakRWOL07OOr2QDdHyJ2x1-hdH=new3Yd+80otmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC7tJWZwXaNakRWOL07OOr2QDdHyJ2x1-hdH=new3Yd+80otmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC7tJWZui+RUxYxow=_crFXdFXP1TV-wnJ_hEBg8dHpO8B-rEA@mail.gmail.com>

Good Morning,

All great comments and on point.  I do not disagree with the pay rate issue
at all, but my only question is this.  If Mike does not come back at under
$20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few
months??  Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find
a capable person to be the dock master?

As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is
reduced.  With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and
one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not
return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term.  I completely agree that
we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep
and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best
that we can.  Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way
of doing this.

We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed
guidelines for the staff.  Do we need something more to get this ball
rolling down the road??

No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point
of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens.

Glenn

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Good Morning,
>
> Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input
> from the BOD.  This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what
> we can do within a set budget.  As I state in the attachment, paying 2
> stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing
> business.
>
> Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per
> hour.  No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource
> for the club.
>
> I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour.  This is where we
> are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he
> will leave.  My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand,
> other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of
> season only)  this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master.
> $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke.  If any of you have a
> problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glenn
>
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From info at blueberrybayfarm.com  Sun Apr 15 09:28:17 2018
From: info at blueberrybayfarm.com (Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:28:17 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] 2018 PYC salaries
Message-ID: <df0e0da7-b5f3-44c5-8362-25cdaf508e9f@blueberrybayfarm.com>

Glenn:

I fully agree with Scott, Jeremy and Roy; no one is that valuable if 
he/she threatens to leave if they don't get what they want; a 33% 
increase is absurd.  In my limited view, compare all the training and 
immense know-how  the steward's position requires compared to the 
dockmaster's.

Sorry I didn't speak up in the meeting, but in my experience (in having 
52 employees in my company), almost invariably it is wiser to hire from 
within for a number of reasons. .  Freida is a known quantity, and we 
know she knows club very well, I dare say 95% of the members like her,  
so let's be sure she is given every opportunity (I mean preference), and 
enticement,  in consideration for the steward position.

Ron


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From glennwmichael at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 10:24:52 2018
From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:24:52 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] 2018 PYC salaries
In-Reply-To: <df0e0da7-b5f3-44c5-8362-25cdaf508e9f@blueberrybayfarm.com>
References: <df0e0da7-b5f3-44c5-8362-25cdaf508e9f@blueberrybayfarm.com>
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Thanks Ron,

I agree that Freida should be at the top of the selection committee's
list..no question.  She is a known quantity, but I certainly have no
problem with investigating the unknown, shall we say.  My only fear is that
Freida will give up on us if she is not made the steward in training, but
that is the risk that we take.  This is not an easy time to be an officer,
or on the BOD, and I commend everyone for their time, patience, and thought.

Thanks to all,

Glenn

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm <
info at blueberrybayfarm.com> wrote:

> Glenn:
>
> I fully agree with Scott, Jeremy and Roy; no one is that valuable if
> he/she threatens to leave if they don't get what they want; a 33% increase
> is absurd.  In my limited view, compare all the training and immense
> know-how  the steward's position requires compared to the dockmaster's.
>
> Sorry I didn't speak up in the meeting, but in my experience (in having 52
> employees in my company), almost invariably it is wiser to hire from within
> for a number of reasons. .  Freida is a known quantity, and we know she
> knows club very well, I dare say 95% of the members like her,  so let's be
> sure she is given every opportunity (I mean preference), and enticement,
> in consideration for the steward position.
>
> Ron
>
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From roysail at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 15 12:49:37 2018
From: roysail at hotmail.com (Roy Briscoe)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:49:37 +0000
Subject: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
In-Reply-To: <CAC7tJWZui+RUxYxow=_crFXdFXP1TV-wnJ_hEBg8dHpO8B-rEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC7tJWZwXaNakRWOL07OOr2QDdHyJ2x1-hdH=new3Yd+80otmw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAC7tJWZui+RUxYxow=_crFXdFXP1TV-wnJ_hEBg8dHpO8B-rEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BN3PR17MB05292EAD121539DAA8CEE993BCB10@BN3PR17MB0529.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

Do you want me to work with Jerry this week to nail down the job descriptions?

Roy


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________________________________
From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:28 PM
To: Board of Directors
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries

Good Morning,

All great comments and on point.  I do not disagree with the pay rate issue at all, but my only question is this.  If Mike does not come back at under $20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few months??  Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find a capable person to be the dock master?

As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is reduced.  With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term.  I completely agree that we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best that we can.  Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way of doing this.

We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed guidelines for the staff.  Do we need something more to get this ball rolling down the road??

No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens.

Glenn

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com<mailto:glennwmichael at gmail.com>> wrote:
Good Morning,

Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input from the BOD.  This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what we can do within a set budget.  As I state in the attachment, paying 2 stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing business.

Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per hour.  No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource for the club.

I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour.  This is where we are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he will leave.  My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand, other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of season only)  this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master.  $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke.  If any of you have a problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15.

Thanks,

Glenn

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From roysail at hotmail.com  Sun Apr 15 13:51:53 2018
From: roysail at hotmail.com (Roy Briscoe)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 19:51:53 +0000
Subject: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
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References: <CAC7tJWZwXaNakRWOL07OOr2QDdHyJ2x1-hdH=new3Yd+80otmw@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CAC7tJWZui+RUxYxow=_crFXdFXP1TV-wnJ_hEBg8dHpO8B-rEA@mail.gmail.com>,
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Also, what if we offer Mike 17.50 or $18 and see what he says, a bit of negotiation. That gives him room within the pay band for a couple of years and makes it easier for us to grasp.

Roy


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________________________________
From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:49 PM
To: Board of Directors
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries

Do you want me to work with Jerry this week to nail down the job descriptions?

Roy


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From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:28 PM
To: Board of Directors
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries

Good Morning,

All great comments and on point.  I do not disagree with the pay rate issue at all, but my only question is this.  If Mike does not come back at under $20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few months??  Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find a capable person to be the dock master?

As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is reduced.  With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term.  I completely agree that we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best that we can.  Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way of doing this.

We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed guidelines for the staff.  Do we need something more to get this ball rolling down the road??

No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens.

Glenn

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com<mailto:glennwmichael at gmail.com>> wrote:
Good Morning,

Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input from the BOD.  This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what we can do within a set budget.  As I state in the attachment, paying 2 stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing business.

Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per hour.  No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource for the club.

I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour.  This is where we are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he will leave.  My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand, other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of season only)  this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master.  $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke.  If any of you have a problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15.

Thanks,

Glenn

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From glennwmichael at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 15:38:38 2018
From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 17:38:38 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
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Hi Roy,

That would be great if you have time to do it...THANKS!!!

As far as Mike, I am waiting for input from 3 more of the BOD.  I think the
general feeling is to offer him $18 and see what happens.

Thanks for all of your help and great comments.

Glenn

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Also, what if we offer Mike 17.50 or $18 and see what he says, a bit of
> negotiation. That gives him room within the pay band for a couple of years
> and makes it easier for us to grasp.
>
> Roy
>
> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Roy Briscoe <
> roysail at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:49 PM
> *To:* Board of Directors
> *Subject:* Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
>
> Do you want me to work with Jerry this week to nail down the job
> descriptions?
>
> Roy
>
> Sent from Outlook
> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fweboutlook&data=02%7C01%7C%7C53761773c9104f6714e808d5a301be15%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636594150244472728&sdata=VL3M1S%2Fb1F1g3Y5V5TcqOeJ2cbbAzHPMyKpAfMRJMcw%3D&reserved=0>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Glenn Michael
> <glennwmichael at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:28 PM
> *To:* Board of Directors
> *Subject:* Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
>
> Good Morning,
>
> All great comments and on point.  I do not disagree with the pay rate
> issue at all, but my only question is this.  If Mike does not come back at
> under $20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few
> months??  Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find
> a capable person to be the dock master?
>
> As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is
> reduced.  With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and
> one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not
> return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term.  I completely agree that
> we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep
> and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best
> that we can.  Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way
> of doing this.
>
> We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed
> guidelines for the staff.  Do we need something more to get this ball
> rolling down the road??
>
> No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point
> of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens.
>
> Glenn
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Good Morning,
>
> Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input
> from the BOD.  This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what
> we can do within a set budget.  As I state in the attachment, paying 2
> stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing
> business.
>
> Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per
> hour.  No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource
> for the club.
>
> I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour.  This is where we
> are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he
> will leave.  My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand,
> other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of
> season only)  this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master.
> $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke.  If any of you have a
> problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glenn
>
>
>
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From dgingras at comcast.net  Sun Apr 15 18:43:47 2018
From: dgingras at comcast.net (Dan Gingras)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:43:47 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
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I don’t think we should submit to an ultimatum,   while it would be a hardship to lose Mike, and I think we’re in for a bit of a rough patch with launch drivers this year,  I agree that $18 is where it should be right now.   

 

Dan

 

 

From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> On Behalf Of Glenn Michael
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:39 PM
To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries

 

Hi Roy,

 

That would be great if you have time to do it...THANKS!!!

 

As far as Mike, I am waiting for input from 3 more of the BOD.  I think the general feeling is to offer him $18 and see what happens.

 

Thanks for all of your help and great comments.

 

Glenn

 

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com <mailto:roysail at hotmail.com> > wrote:

Also, what if we offer Mike 17.50 or $18 and see what he says, a bit of negotiation. That gives him room within the pay band for a couple of years and makes it easier for us to grasp.

 

Roy

 

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From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org <mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> > on behalf of Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com <mailto:roysail at hotmail.com> >
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:49 PM
To: Board of Directors
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries 

 

Do you want me to work with Jerry this week to nail down the job descriptions?

 

Roy

 

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From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org <mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> > on behalf of Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com <mailto:glennwmichael at gmail.com> >
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:28 PM
To: Board of Directors
Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries 

 

Good Morning,

 

All great comments and on point.  I do not disagree with the pay rate issue at all, but my only question is this.  If Mike does not come back at under $20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few months??  Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find a capable person to be the dock master?  

 

As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is reduced.  With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term.  I completely agree that we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best that we can.  Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way of doing this.

 

We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed guidelines for the staff.  Do we need something more to get this ball rolling down the road??

 

No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens.  

 

Glenn

 

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com <mailto:glennwmichael at gmail.com> > wrote:

Good Morning,

 

Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input from the BOD.  This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what we can do within a set budget.  As I state in the attachment, paying 2 stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing business.

 

Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per hour.  No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource for the club.

 

I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour.  This is where we are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he will leave.  My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand, other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of season only)  this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master.  $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke.  If any of you have a problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15.

 

Thanks,

 

Glenn

 

 

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From wendyclement10 at comcast.net  Sun Apr 15 19:02:55 2018
From: wendyclement10 at comcast.net (Wendy)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:02:55 -0400
Subject: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
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I have been following the email trail and completely agree with the 18.00.


Regards,
Wendy Clement



> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:43 PM, Dan Gingras <dgingras at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I don’t think we should submit to an ultimatum,   while it would be a hardship to lose Mike, and I think we’re in for a bit of a rough patch with launch drivers this year,  I agree that $18 is where it should be right now.  
>  
> Dan
>  
>  
> From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> On Behalf Of Glenn Michael
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:39 PM
> To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
>  
> Hi Roy,
>  
> That would be great if you have time to do it...THANKS!!!
>  
> As far as Mike, I am waiting for input from 3 more of the BOD.  I think the general feeling is to offer him $18 and see what happens.
>  
> Thanks for all of your help and great comments.
>  
> Glenn
>  
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Also, what if we offer Mike 17.50 or $18 and see what he says, a bit of negotiation. That gives him room within the pay band for a couple of years and makes it easier for us to grasp.
>  
> Roy
>  
> Sent from Outlook
> 
> From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:49 PM
> To: Board of Directors
> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
>  
> Do you want me to work with Jerry this week to nail down the job descriptions?
>  
> Roy
>  
> Sent from Outlook
> 
> From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:28 PM
> To: Board of Directors
> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
>  
> Good Morning,
>  
> All great comments and on point.  I do not disagree with the pay rate issue at all, but my only question is this.  If Mike does not come back at under $20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few months??  Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find a capable person to be the dock master? 
>  
> As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is reduced.  With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term.  I completely agree that we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best that we can.  Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way of doing this.
>  
> We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed guidelines for the staff.  Do we need something more to get this ball rolling down the road??
>  
> No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens. 
>  
> Glenn
>  
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Morning,
>  
> Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input from the BOD.  This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what we can do within a set budget.  As I state in the attachment, paying 2 stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing business.
>  
> Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per hour.  No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource for the club.
>  
> I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour.  This is where we are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he will leave.  My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand, other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of season only)  this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master.  $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke.  If any of you have a problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Glenn
>  
>  
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From lauriec15 at comcast.net  Sun Apr 15 19:33:07 2018
From: lauriec15 at comcast.net (Laurie Clark)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:33:07 -0400
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Yes, I think giving Mike all that he asked for is a mistake. $5 more an hour is a lot as everyone else has said. If Mike says no, we have Frieda... as long as she gets her launch license, which I’m sure she will. 

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> On Apr 15, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Roy,
> 
> That would be great if you have time to do it...THANKS!!!
> 
> As far as Mike, I am waiting for input from 3 more of the BOD.  I think the general feeling is to offer him $18 and see what happens.
> 
> Thanks for all of your help and great comments.
> 
> Glenn
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Also, what if we offer Mike 17.50 or $18 and see what he says, a bit of negotiation. That gives him room within the pay band for a couple of years and makes it easier for us to grasp.
>> 
>> Roy
>> 
>> Sent from Outlook
>>  
>> From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:49 PM
>> To: Board of Directors
>> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
>>  
>> Do you want me to work with Jerry this week to nail down the job descriptions?
>> 
>> Roy
>> 
>> Sent from Outlook
>>  
>> From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:28 PM
>> To: Board of Directors
>> Subject: Re: [Board-2018] PYC Salaries
>>  
>> Good Morning,
>> 
>> All great comments and on point.  I do not disagree with the pay rate issue at all, but my only question is this.  If Mike does not come back at under $20 per hour, will we be OK without a licensed dock master for a few months??  Plus, who are the volunteers to run that search committee to find a capable person to be the dock master? 
>> 
>> As far as Freida, we can certainly set a launch license date or her pay is reduced.  With respect to launch drivers, we have one returning person and one new hire with a license, (as far as I know) so if Mike C does not return, we will have 2 drivers for the near term.  I completely agree that we are behind the power curve on all of this, but the study of salary creep and our decision to take action is fairly recent, and we are doing the best that we can.  Next year we will have the availability of an entire new way of doing this.
>> 
>> We have job descriptions for the steward and the dock master and detailed guidelines for the staff.  Do we need something more to get this ball rolling down the road??
>> 
>> No firm decision has been made on any of this, but we are now at the point of determining what the staff looks like when the club opens. 
>> 
>> Glenn
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good Morning,
>> 
>> Attached is a document summarizing our many discussions using great input from the BOD.  This document IS NOT perfect, but I think it reflects what we can do within a set budget.  As I state in the attachment, paying 2 stewards for overlap inflates the amount a bit, but that is a cost of doing business.
>> 
>> Also, in my summary I have increased Freida's pay from $17 to $18 per hour.  No matter where we end up with Freida, she is an excellent resource for the club.
>> 
>> I have placed Mike, the dock master at $20 per hour.  This is where we are....I have been told by both Jerry and Mike that if this is not done, he will leave.  My feeling is this.......with only one experienced dock hand, other than Freida returning (I am not counting Shapiro as he is end of season only)  this is not the time to be hunting down a new dock master.  $20 fits into our band and I recommend keeping MIke.  If any of you have a problem with this I need to know no later Sunday night. April 15.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Glenn
>> 
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