[Board-2017] Insurance Review
Nancy Gulley
nancgulley at gmail.com
Thu Mar 30 17:00:40 MDT 2017
There are many good ideas out ther right now and perhaps Mike's suggesting
of putting together a committee of " our" lawyers makes sense. A consensus
that will not cost us a fortune will help us make a decision that does not
include another huge expenditure.
Nanc
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:08 PM Roy Briscoe <roysail at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Has PYC ever been sued?
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> There right now. I agree
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> My opinion is the only ones who will make out with us increasing the limit
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> as opposed to $3M. I think they would go after the lowest hanging fruit
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> after the board members and trying to get a settlement out of them would
> be a lot of work and in my case a useless effort on their part. $7K a year
> is a lot of money to spend and not get any return on it. In 10 years we
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> Remember insurance is gambling, you are gambling you are going to lose,
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> *From:* Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of
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> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:46 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Board-2017] Insurance Review
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> Your are correct in your assessment. The firm will be putting the dollar
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> I just want to remind the board that we did discuss just increasing the
> the coverage. We then conversed as to how much is or would be enough if we
> were sued. I believe I did inform the board that I discuss this with Capt.
> Nadeau and he said if the cost
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> followed the board's request to look into the cost of reviewing our
> coverage and have them make an assessment and recommendations. The current
> cost for $3,000,000 is $5,130.00 and if increased
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> *From: *"Nancy Gulley" <nancgulley at gmail.com>
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> *To: *"Board of Directors" <board at portsmouthyc.org>,
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> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:03:00 PM
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> *Subject: *Re: [Board-2017] Insurance Review
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> Quick question... The $1500 is a retainer. As I read your info Dave - I
> understand that once they see the. info they will then inform us how much
> more It could cost. Is this correct? I think I agree with Ron. Perhaps
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> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:39 PM Ron Laurence - Blueberry Bay Farm <
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> I very much appreciate your pursuing and efforts so far in this matter,
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> Joe Cunningham, I’m confident that the club and its officers and directors
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> $3million. What I’m deeply worried about is a claim, and later an award
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> exceeding $3M, in a case where particularly a child, but even an adult
> for that matter, lost his/her life, because ambulance-chasing personal
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> that the club was negligent. Remember, a yacht club, and its officers and
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> perceived to be wealthy and this would no doubt enter into a judge’s
> decision into making an award. I believe, in the case of whomever of the
> officers and directors have net worth over $3M, that
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> most likely no one wants to reveal their personal wealth, perhaps if we
> simply polled the board to find out if increasing our coverage to say $5M
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> and with a unanimous vote, then ask Joe what the cost would be. [and by
> the way, I have a suggestion as to how we could pay for the increase]. I
> think the club has an obligation to both its current and future officers
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> *From:* Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org]
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> *On Behalf Of *dswajda at comcast.net
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:59 PM
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> *To:* Board PYC <board at portsmouthyc.org>
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> *Subject:* [Board-2017] Insurance Review
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> I have been in contact with the firm of Drummond Woodsum, 84 Marginal Way,
> Suite 600, Portland, ME 04101-2480. Local telephone number is 603-433-3317.
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> I talked with Atty. Tom Watson who actually lives in Portsmouth on New
> Castle Avenue. He related that a review could take between 3-5 hours and
> the firm would be asking for a $1500 retainer. Once the paperwork was
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> I would suggest that they review our Constitution and By-Laws regarding
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> I twice tried contacting the firm of Pierce Atwood at 1 NH Avenue, #350,
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> Please advise if you want to proceed - I gather I am requesting permission
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