From nancgulley at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 08:39:48 2016
From: nancgulley at gmail.com (Nancy Gulley)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 10:39:48 -0400
Subject: [Board] Quick question
Message-ID: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yesterday we approved the position for Communications with a salary of $650
per year.  Is this going to begin with the 2017 season?  That was my take
... but now I am not sure that is correct.  And, are we going to give her a
check for $650 at the beginning of the season or figure out a payment plan?
Nanc
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From JohnC at Myles.com  Fri Sep  9 09:10:37 2016
From: JohnC at Myles.com (John Myles)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 11:10:37 -0400
Subject: [Board] Quick question
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References: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I thought next year, maybe pay ½ at the start and ½ at the end or actually make it similar to the secretary and treasurer payment schedule.

Bud

 

From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Gulley
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 10:40 AM
To: PYC Board <Board at portsmouthyc.org>
Subject: [Board] Quick question

 

Yesterday we approved the position for Communications with a salary of $650 per year.  Is this going to begin with the 2017 season?  That was my take ... but now I am not sure that is correct.  And, are we going to give her a check for $650 at the beginning of the season or figure out a payment plan?

Nanc

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From roysail at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  9 11:26:30 2016
From: roysail at hotmail.com (Roy Briscoe)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:26:30 +0000
Subject: [Board] Quick question
In-Reply-To: <003701d20aac$53187490$f9495db0$@Myles.com>
References: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>,
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My take it was next year too and the payment plan was left up in the air to whatever was easier/creative in trying to avoid filing a 1099.


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From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of John Myles <JohnC at Myles.com>
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 3:10 PM
To: 'Board of Directors'
Subject: Re: [Board] Quick question


I thought next year, maybe pay ½ at the start and ½ at the end or actually make it similar to the secretary and treasurer payment schedule.

Bud



From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Gulley
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 10:40 AM
To: PYC Board <Board at portsmouthyc.org>
Subject: [Board] Quick question



Yesterday we approved the position for Communications with a salary of $650 per year.  Is this going to begin with the 2017 season?  That was my take ... but now I am not sure that is correct.  And, are we going to give her a check for $650 at the beginning of the season or figure out a payment plan?

Nanc
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From jamcadams at comcast.net  Fri Sep  9 11:43:15 2016
From: jamcadams at comcast.net (Jim McAdams)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:43:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Board] Quick question
In-Reply-To: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F40ABA1A206349C2.5F17A34F-18D7-4D8B-9C32-01367D30B93D@mail.outlook.com>

I thought it would start next year. Not sure if we can create the position and pay for it retroactively.  

Jim




On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:39 AM -0400, "Nancy Gulley" <nancgulley at gmail.com> wrote:










Yesterday we approved the position for Communications with a salary of $650 per year.  Is this going to begin with the 2017 season?  That was my take ... but now I am not sure that is correct.  And, are we going to give her a check for $650 at the beginning of the season or figure out a payment plan?Nanc





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From glennwmichael at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 12:41:39 2016
From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 14:41:39 -0400
Subject: [Board] Quick question
In-Reply-To: <003701d20aac$53187490$f9495db0$@Myles.com>
References: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>
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My understanding is that it starts in 2017.  I agree with Bud.  Half at
start and half at the end.

Thanks,

Glenn

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:10 AM, John Myles <JohnC at myles.com> wrote:

> I thought next year, maybe pay ½ at the start and ½ at the end or actually
> make it similar to the secretary and treasurer payment schedule.
>
> Bud
>
>
>
> *From:* Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] *On Behalf Of *Nancy
> Gulley
> *Sent:* Friday, September 09, 2016 10:40 AM
> *To:* PYC Board <Board at portsmouthyc.org>
> *Subject:* [Board] Quick question
>
>
>
> Yesterday we approved the position for Communications with a salary of
> $650 per year.  Is this going to begin with the 2017 season?  That was my
> take ... but now I am not sure that is correct.  And, are we going to give
> her a check for $650 at the beginning of the season or figure out a payment
> plan?
>
> Nanc
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From dswajda at comcast.net  Fri Sep  9 12:46:26 2016
From: dswajda at comcast.net (David S Wajda)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 14:46:26 -0400
Subject: [Board] Quick question
In-Reply-To: <CAC7tJWa8+X6AoKh_irBhdT3DQKNahtVV9K=7o12aouyT2iND2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<003701d20aac$53187490$f9495db0$@Myles.com>
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Message-ID: <6DB4FC5C-05F7-4DBC-8CFB-73C1AD8DE073@comcast.net>

Agree with John and Glen's take -

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My understanding is that it starts in 2017.  I agree with Bud.  Half at start and half at the end.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Glenn
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:10 AM, John Myles <JohnC at myles.com> wrote:
>> I thought next year, maybe pay ½ at the start and ½ at the end or actually make it similar to the secretary and treasurer payment schedule.
>> 
>> Bud
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Gulley
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 10:40 AM
>> To: PYC Board <Board at portsmouthyc.org>
>> Subject: [Board] Quick question
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yesterday we approved the position for Communications with a salary of $650 per year.  Is this going to begin with the 2017 season?  That was my take ... but now I am not sure that is correct.  And, are we going to give her a check for $650 at the beginning of the season or figure out a payment plan?
>> 
>> Nanc
>> 
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From wendyclement10 at comcast.net  Fri Sep  9 17:59:03 2016
From: wendyclement10 at comcast.net (Wendy)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 19:59:03 -0400
Subject: [Board] Quick question
In-Reply-To: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEYcus8xVTsGOEUJ3L9jy3es4L0r-D04-FaHRu_rAfp+-yjiDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <96941715-85AF-421B-82EF-947891DAB385@comcast.net>

I agree with 2017 and 1/2 & 1/2 if that is the established payment plan.

Regards,
Wendy Clement



> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Nancy Gulley <nancgulley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yesterday we approved the position for Communications with a salary of $650 per year.  Is this going to begin with the 2017 season?  That was my take ... but now I am not sure that is correct.  And, are we going to give her a check for $650 at the beginning of the season or figure out a payment plan?
> Nanc
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From nancgulley at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 19:50:38 2016
From: nancgulley at gmail.com (Nancy Gulley)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 21:50:38 -0400
Subject: [Board] Quick question
In-Reply-To: <96941715-85AF-421B-82EF-947891DAB385@comcast.net>
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	<96941715-85AF-421B-82EF-947891DAB385@comcast.net>
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Thanks for the input.  Glad I put this out to all of you. Next year and we
decide how to pay. That is how I also thought we ended the discussion.
Nanc


On Friday, September 9, 2016, Wendy <wendyclement10 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I agree with 2017 and 1/2 & 1/2 if that is the established payment plan.
>
> Regards,
> Wendy Clement
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Nancy Gulley <nancgulley at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nancgulley at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Yesterday we approved the position for Communications with a salary of
> $650 per year.  Is this going to begin with the 2017 season?  That was my
> take ... but now I am not sure that is correct.  And, are we going to give
> her a check for $650 at the beginning of the season or figure out a payment
> plan?
> Nanc
>
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From nancgulley at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 19:55:40 2016
From: nancgulley at gmail.com (Nancy Gulley)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 21:55:40 -0400
Subject: [Board] Fwd: PYC Communictions
In-Reply-To: <1273406113.16907078.1473458922179.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
References: <11298143.16893274.1473457718811.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
	<1273406113.16907078.1473458922179.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
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Well as I am reading my emails top to bottom I see a mistake.  Please read
this from Carole.
I actually thought Carole was not going to talk to Chris until we at least
agreed on time of offer and pay schedule.  I guess I was once again wrong!
Now we have a new snake pit!
Nanc

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <cccartnick at comcast.net>
Date: Friday, September 9, 2016
Subject: PYC Communictions
To: "Gulley, Nancy" <nancy at gulley.com>


Hi Nancy -

Looks like we have another bad situation to work on.

I just talked with Chris Weller and told her the decision
from last night about the Communications position.

Chris is VERY disappointed and I would say VERY upset.
She believes that the Board either doesn't understand the
position or doesn't care.  Here's why.

1.  She spends about the same amount of hours that Doyle
     and I do on club work.  She thinks that the Board does
     realize all that is involved with web site management,
     emails, and newsletters.  She feels that she should be
     compensated the same as the Treasurer and Secretary.
     with her dues forgiven and an additional stipend.($1500).

2.  She feels that her responsibilities should be recognized
     in the Constitution the same as the Treasurer and
     Secretary positions are.  Times have changed, and the
     need for this specialized work has increased dramatically.

3.  Yes, there is a description of a "Communications
     Committee" in the Member Directory.  The write-up is not
     up to date.  Also, other people listed on the committee have
     not done anything towards the communications functions in
     the past few years other than to manage cameras. etc.,
     which is now a totally different function from communications
     through the web site and emails.  She feels, and I agree,
     that the Communications Committee mentioned on page 71
     of the directory should be removed, since it has not changed
     in many years.

4.  Chris is certain that Board members are not aware of
     how much work is involved and how much it has impacted.
     the club.  I can remember when attendance was slim and
     very dull at events.  In the past 6 years, Chris'
     communications have increased interest and have also
     successfully advertised events either mistakenly listed or
     not listed in the annual schedule.

5.  She feels this is a slap in the face because the position is
     not recognized properly.  For example, the responsibility
     for newsletters is indicated in the Constitution as a
     responsibility of the Vice Commodore.    Yet Chris has
     taken this responsibility on herself for years.

Nancy, I've worked very closely with Chris for years, and saw
her assume these responsibilities and do all this work 6 years
ago because she saw the need.  I have done all I can to bring
this to the Board.  I am not a Board member.  Nor did they ask
Chris to come before the Board to state her case.  But I have
seen her faithful and consistent work for the benefit of the club
and can only worry about her taking this personally since no
once seems to go to bat for her.

I don't know what happens next but an wondering whether the
Board could reconsider their position very very quickly.

Best,
Carole
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From roysail at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  9 21:26:32 2016
From: roysail at hotmail.com (Roy Briscoe)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 03:26:32 +0000
Subject: [Board] Fwd: PYC Communictions and launch
In-Reply-To: <CAEYcus-9PSqk3kDtPE_oBLO-8bwRBxgs4QtQ=n2w1L5ajKCfyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <11298143.16893274.1473457718811.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
	<1273406113.16907078.1473458922179.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>,
	<CAEYcus-9PSqk3kDtPE_oBLO-8bwRBxgs4QtQ=n2w1L5ajKCfyA@mail.gmail.com>
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What if we get a time estimate from Carole, Doyle and Chris of how much time they spend on a weekly/seasonal basis and then we can do a comparison and see where the Communications falls into fold? And the board will have  a better understanding of what the time commitment is for these positions.


Also, should we get some numbers for the last 5 years on launch income, # people who pay for the launch service and launch expenses so we can see how much effect the 50% increase in launch fee has the on launch bottom line? We can then use these numbers at the annual meeting.


Roy


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________________________________
From: Board <board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org> on behalf of Nancy Gulley <nancgulley at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 1:55 AM
To: PYC Board
Subject: [Board] Fwd: PYC Communictions

Well as I am reading my emails top to bottom I see a mistake.  Please read this from Carole.
I actually thought Carole was not going to talk to Chris until we at least agreed on time of offer and pay schedule.  I guess I was once again wrong!  Now we have a new snake pit!
Nanc

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <cccartnick at comcast.net<mailto:cccartnick at comcast.net>>
Date: Friday, September 9, 2016
Subject: PYC Communictions
To: "Gulley, Nancy" <nancy at gulley.com<mailto:nancy at gulley.com>>


Hi Nancy -

Looks like we have another bad situation to work on.

I just talked with Chris Weller and told her the decision
from last night about the Communications position.

Chris is VERY disappointed and I would say VERY upset.
She believes that the Board either doesn't understand the
position or doesn't care.  Here's why.

1.  She spends about the same amount of hours that Doyle
     and I do on club work.  She thinks that the Board does
     realize all that is involved with web site management,
     emails, and newsletters.  She feels that she should be
     compensated the same as the Treasurer and Secretary.
     with her dues forgiven and an additional stipend.($1500).

2.  She feels that her responsibilities should be recognized
     in the Constitution the same as the Treasurer and
     Secretary positions are.  Times have changed, and the
     need for this specialized work has increased dramatically.

3.  Yes, there is a description of a "Communications
     Committee" in the Member Directory.  The write-up is not
     up to date.  Also, other people listed on the committee have
     not done anything towards the communications functions in
     the past few years other than to manage cameras. etc.,
     which is now a totally different function from communications
     through the web site and emails.  She feels, and I agree,
     that the Communications Committee mentioned on page 71
     of the directory should be removed, since it has not changed
     in many years.

4.  Chris is certain that Board members are not aware of
     how much work is involved and how much it has impacted.
     the club.  I can remember when attendance was slim and
     very dull at events.  In the past 6 years, Chris'
     communications have increased interest and have also
     successfully advertised events either mistakenly listed or
     not listed in the annual schedule.

5.  She feels this is a slap in the face because the position is
     not recognized properly.  For example, the responsibility
     for newsletters is indicated in the Constitution as a
     responsibility of the Vice Commodore.    Yet Chris has
     taken this responsibility on herself for years.

Nancy, I've worked very closely with Chris for years, and saw
her assume these responsibilities and do all this work 6 years
ago because she saw the need.  I have done all I can to bring
this to the Board.  I am not a Board member.  Nor did they ask
Chris to come before the Board to state her case.  But I have
seen her faithful and consistent work for the benefit of the club
and can only worry about her taking this personally since no
once seems to go to bat for her.

I don't know what happens next but an wondering whether the
Board could reconsider their position very very quickly.

Best,
Carole


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