From jgray at promocentric.com Mon Jul 25 07:12:22 2016 From: jgray at promocentric.com (Justin Gray) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:12:22 +0000 Subject: [Board] By law changes for reinstatement? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can someone send out the full question originals please? I was away for 2 weeks and am can't seem to locate them Thanks! Justin Gray President PromoCentric, LLC 5 Forbes Road, Newmarket, NH 03857 Direct: (603) 758-7202 jgray at promocentric.com promocentric.com Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Google+ | YouTube From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Roy Briscoe Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 10:26 PM To: PYC Board Subject: [Board] By law changes for reinstatement? Just to let you know have only received answers from 2 people so far and I was hoping to send out a summary to the whole board tonight. It should only take you about 5 minutes or less to answer the questions, unless you have more thoughts for other solutions. Thank you, Roy Sent from Outlook ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JohnC at Myles.com Mon Jul 25 07:26:31 2016 From: JohnC at Myles.com (John Myles) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 09:26:31 -0400 Subject: [Board] Reinstatement options poll, reformatted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009501d1e678$2902fa20$7b08ee60$@Myles.com> Thanks Roy, See below highlighted areas are my preferences, Bud From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Roy Briscoe Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:25 AM To: Board of Directors Subject: [Board] Reinstatement options poll, reformatted I've reformatted the potential list of options and left a spot on each for other ideas. We have Ron's response, so if the others could reply with this email and mark the options you like, by what ever method you like or adding in where the "??" are if you come up with more ideas or variations. I can compile them into one email this weekend and send it out if that works for everyone. Members Children reinstatement options 1. Up age 26, 5 years after becoming eligible. (there are plenty of children that did not get this benefit Melisa and I being two of them 26 is fine) 2. Up to age 30 3. Leave as is with no limit 4. ?? Spouse/ Sig Others options: 1. Deceased partner: * Should immediately replace a deceased member, if they want it. No change in bylaws? 2. Split partners: * Primary partner continues * Secondary partner goes to the (remove top) reinstatement wait list same as any returning member, * Above any past members waiting on the list * Below any partner split already on the list * Add a check box on the application to indicate primary partner? * No change to by-law that states a partner is a couple who joins at the same time? * Does not apply if the current couple becomes a couple after one of them has joined * Though what if they are both members, separately, then become a couple (if one wants to give up their membership then they would have to resign and come under the others family membership)? 3. ?? Time limit for reinstatement options: 1. up to 10 years, no sponsors, over 10 years with new sponsors 2. No limit as it is currently 3. ?? Limit annual reinstatement options: 1. One per year 2. Two per year 3. Three per year 4. No limit as it is now (I recommend that we alternate one new and one reinstatement or a combination of that 2-1 or 3-1 as needed, (maybe 2-1 with 20 on list 3-1 with 30 on list and so on.) 5. ?? Sent from Outlook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nancgulley at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 08:49:01 2016 From: nancgulley at gmail.com (Nancy Gulley) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:49:01 -0400 Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. Message-ID: Well. It has happened. Th ice machine is dying as I write this. I told Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 days. Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep buying ice.. At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at. Hope you all agree with the decision. Heck of a time for a failure. Nanc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roysail at hotmail.com Mon Jul 25 09:50:42 2016 From: roysail at hotmail.com (Roy Briscoe) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:50:42 +0000 Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well at least we had been talking about so we know what to do now Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Nancy Gulley wrote: > > Well. It has happened. Th ice machine is dying as I write this. I told Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 days. Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep buying ice.. > At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at. > Hope you all agree with the decision. Heck of a time for a failure. > Nanc From wendyclement10 at comcast.net Mon Jul 25 10:13:30 2016 From: wendyclement10 at comcast.net (Wendy) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:13:30 -0400 Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Glad we were having the discussion earlier. I support the decision! Regards, Wendy Clement > On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Nancy Gulley wrote: > > Well. It has happened. Th ice machine is dying as I write this. I told Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 days. Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep buying ice.. > At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at. > Hope you all agree with the decision. Heck of a time for a failure. > Nanc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dswajda at comcast.net Mon Jul 25 12:05:43 2016 From: dswajda at comcast.net (David S Wajda) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:05:43 -0400 Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agree with your decision - couldn't have happened at a worse time with the high temps Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Nancy Gulley wrote: > > Well. It has happened. Th ice machine is dying as I write this. I told Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 days. Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep buying ice.. > At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at. > Hope you all agree with the decision. Heck of a time for a failure. > Nanc From jgray at promocentric.com Mon Jul 25 12:11:12 2016 From: jgray at promocentric.com (Justin Gray) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:11:12 +0000 Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: agreed Justin Gray President PromoCentric, LLC 5 Forbes Road, Newmarket, NH 03857 Direct: (603) 758-7202 jgray at promocentric.com promocentric.com Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Google+ | YouTube From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of David S Wajda Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:06 PM To: Board of Directors Cc: Jerry Goldfarb Subject: Re: [Board] Ice machine failed. Agree with your decision - couldn't have happened at a worse time with the high temps Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Nancy Gulley wrote: > > Well. It has happened. Th ice machine is dying as I write this. I told Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 days. Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep buying ice.. > At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at. > Hope you all agree with the decision. Heck of a time for a failure. > Nanc ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamcadams at comcast.net Mon Jul 25 13:21:27 2016 From: jamcadams at comcast.net (Jim McAdams) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 19:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agreed. Thank you.  Jim On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:49 AM -0600, "Nancy Gulley" wrote: Well. It has happened.  Th ice machine is dying as I write this.  I told Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 days.  Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep buying ice..  At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at.Hope you all agree with the decision.  Heck of a time for a failure.Nanc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at dangingras.net Mon Jul 25 14:18:34 2016 From: dan at dangingras.net (Dan Gingras) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:18:34 -0400 Subject: [Board] By law changes for reinstatement? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00bc01d1e6b1$b96be1b0$2c43a510$@dangingras.net> Sorry Roy, slipped my mind. I think we should adopt a 1 reinstatement for every 5 new members. Currently reinstatements represent 20% of members admitted, and this would keep it about the same ratio. From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Roy Briscoe Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 10:26 PM To: PYC Board Subject: [Board] By law changes for reinstatement? Just to let you know have only received answers from 2 people so far and I was hoping to send out a summary to the whole board tonight. It should only take you about 5 minutes or less to answer the questions, unless you have more thoughts for other solutions. Thank you, Roy Sent from Outlook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at dangingras.net Mon Jul 25 14:19:29 2016 From: dan at dangingras.net (Dan Gingras) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:19:29 -0400 Subject: [Board] By law changes for reinstatement? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c101d1e6b1$d9e5a200$8db0e600$@dangingras.net> I also think we should limit children to go to the top of the list only until they are 30 years of age. From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Roy Briscoe Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 10:26 PM To: PYC Board Subject: [Board] By law changes for reinstatement? Just to let you know have only received answers from 2 people so far and I was hoping to send out a summary to the whole board tonight. It should only take you about 5 minutes or less to answer the questions, unless you have more thoughts for other solutions. Thank you, Roy Sent from Outlook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at dangingras.net Mon Jul 25 14:25:04 2016 From: dan at dangingras.net (Dan Gingras) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:25:04 -0400 Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00d101d1e6b2$a14d4d20$e3e7e760$@dangingras.net> Agree, we have no choice. Dan From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Gulley Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:49 AM To: PYC Board ; Jerry Goldfarb Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. Well. It has happened. Th ice machine is dying as I write this. I told Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 days. Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep buying ice.. At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at. Hope you all agree with the decision. Heck of a time for a failure. Nanc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blidberg at ausi.org Mon Jul 25 14:34:31 2016 From: blidberg at ausi.org (Dick Blidberg) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:34:31 -0400 Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7fb569c3-5816-f431-6c13-91497d809ed0@ausi.org> Gotta have ice....no choice but to do it On 7/25/2016 10:49 AM, Nancy Gulley wrote: > Well. It has happened. Th ice machine is dying as I write this. I > told Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 > days. Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep > buying ice.. > At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at. > Hope you all agree with the decision. Heck of a time for a failure. > Nanc --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From glennwmichael at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 18:09:34 2016 From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 20:09:34 -0400 Subject: [Board] Ice machine failed. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Nancy, Good move, Glenn On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Nancy Gulley wrote: > Well. It has happened. Th ice machine is dying as I write this. I told > Jerry to order the machine right now and it will be there in 3-4 days. > Word is it will make enough ice that we will not have to keep buying ice.. > At the same time the refrigerators are being looked at. > Hope you all agree with the decision. Heck of a time for a failure. > Nanc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glennwmichael at gmail.com Mon Jul 25 18:24:41 2016 From: glennwmichael at gmail.com (Glenn Michael) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 20:24:41 -0400 Subject: [Board] Reinstatement options poll, reformatted In-Reply-To: <009501d1e678$2902fa20$7b08ee60$@Myles.com> References: <009501d1e678$2902fa20$7b08ee60$@Myles.com> Message-ID: 1) No children as reinstatements. They should apply and stand on their own 2) Deceased partner..no change 3) Split partners...one gets the membership...the other is on their own to apply. Eliminate automatic membership provision Joining at the same time should remain in section 4. The last sentence should be eliminated. 4) Reinstatement. Change to 5 years. If it is after that, they reapply in the normal manner. 5) Reinstatement options....maximum of 2 per year. Thanks, Glenn On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:26 AM, John Myles wrote: > Thanks Roy, > > See below highlighted areas are my preferences, > > Bud > > > > *From:* Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] *On Behalf Of *Roy > Briscoe > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:25 AM > *To:* Board of Directors > *Subject:* [Board] Reinstatement options poll, reformatted > > > > I've reformatted the potential list of options and left a spot on each for > other ideas. We have Ron's response, so if the others could reply with > this email and mark the options you like, by what ever method you like or > adding in where the "??" are if you come up with more ideas or variations. > I can compile them into one email this weekend and send it out if that > works for everyone. > > > > > > Members Children reinstatement options > > 1. Up age 26, 5 years after becoming eligible. (there are plenty of > children that did not get this benefit Melisa and I being two of them 26 is > fine) > 2. Up to age 30 > 3. Leave as is with no limit > 4. ?? > > > > Spouse/ Sig Others options: > > 1. Deceased partner: > > > - Should immediately replace a deceased member, if they want it. No > change in bylaws? > > > 1. Split partners: > > > - Primary partner continues > - Secondary partner goes to the (remove top) reinstatement wait list > same as any returning member, > > > - Above any past members waiting on the list > - Below any partner split already on the list > - Add a check box on the application to indicate primary > partner? > > > - No change to by-law that states a partner is a couple who joins at > the same time? > > > - Does not apply if the current couple becomes a couple after one of > them has joined > - Though what if they are both members, separately, then become > a couple (if one wants to give up their membership then they > would have to resign and come under the others family membership)? > > > 1. ?? > > Time limit for reinstatement options: > > 1. up to 10 years, no sponsors, over 10 years with new sponsors > 2. No limit as it is currently > 3. ?? > > Limit annual reinstatement options: > > 1. One per year > 2. Two per year > 3. Three per year > 4. No limit as it is now (I recommend that we alternate one new and > one reinstatement or a combination of that 2-1 or 3-1 as needed, (maybe 2-1 > with 20 on list 3-1 with 30 on list and so on…) > 5. ?? > > > > Sent from Outlook > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roysail at hotmail.com Mon Jul 25 19:20:42 2016 From: roysail at hotmail.com (Roy Briscoe) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 01:20:42 +0000 Subject: [Board] Poll results Message-ID: You have probably already read the 6 email responses we have received but here is a summary, which might be a little cryptic: Reinstatement Poll Children age limit Split Partners (Secondary partner) Time limit Limit number of past member reinstatement DG 30 1/5 (1 reinstate for every 5 waitlist that get in) JM 26 reinstatement wait list No limit 1/2 for 20, 1/3 for 30 based on how many on list GM 21 no automatic membership 5 2/year DB 30 no automatic membership <=10 no sponsors, >10 sponsors 2/year RL 26 <=10 no sponsors, >10 sponsors yes limit RB 30 top of reinstatement list but bottom of split partner list <=10 no sponsors, >10 sponsors then bottom of reinstate list 1/5 So we aren't in total agreement but it is good to get the conversation rolling and get all the ideas written down. I changed some my thoughts after seeing some of the responses. If you have any corrections, additions or clarifications, let me know. Roy Sent from Outlook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamcadams at comcast.net Mon Jul 25 21:05:52 2016 From: jamcadams at comcast.net (James) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 03:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Board] Reinstatement options poll, reformatted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <761988604.12068349.1469502352899.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Members Children reinstatement options 1. Up age 26, 5 years after becoming eligible.     Deceased partner:  Should immediately replace a deceased member, if they want it.  No change in bylaws?     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Briscoe" To: "Board of Directors" Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:24:34 AM Subject: [Board] Reinstatement options poll, reformatted I've reformatted the potential list of options and left a spot on each for other ideas.  We have Ron's response, so if the others could reply with this email and mark the options you like, by what ever method you like or adding in where the "??" are if you come up with more ideas or variations. I can compile them into one email this weekend and send it out if that works for everyone. Members Children reinstatement options 1. Up age 26, 5 years after becoming eligible.    2. Up to age 30 3. Leave as is with no limit 4. ?? Spouse/ Sig Others options:   1. Deceased partner: * Should immediately replace a deceased member, if they want it.  No change in bylaws? 2. Split partners: * Primary partner continues * Secondary partner  goes to the  top of the  reinstatement  wait list,  * Above any past members waiting on the list * B elow any partner split already on the list * Add a  check box on the application to indicate primary partner?   * No change to by-law that states a partner is a couple who joins at the same time? * Does not apply if the current couple becomes a couple after one of them has joined * Though what if they are both members, separately, then become a couple? 3. ??                        Time limit for r einstatement  options:  1. up to 10 years , no sponsors,  over 1 0 years with new sponsors 2. No limit as it is currently 3. ?? Limit annual reinstatement options: 1. One per year 2. Two per year 3. Three per year 4. No limit as it is now 5. ?? Sent from Outlook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamcadams at comcast.net Mon Jul 25 21:50:00 2016 From: jamcadams at comcast.net (James) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 03:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Board] Reinstatement options poll, reformatted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1791484903.12076871.1469505000680.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> All,   Please accept my apology for the previous and mistakenly sent email. I'm in Moab, UT. with poor internet service answering this on an iPhone. Here goes again. I hope it make some sense. This is a starting point and I know we have some discussions ahead.   Roy, thank you for organizing the questions.   Members Children reinstatement options 1. Up age 26, 5 years after becoming eligible.     Deceased partner:  Should immediately replace a deceased member, if they want it.  No change in bylaws?   Divorce: Per court approved settlement Split Unmarried couple: They should figure it out, why should the club be put in the middle. Split of Members who became couples: Unless they are each paying dues, whichever one who gave up membership can reapply under reinstatement rules.   Time limit for r einstatement  :  1. up to 10 years , no sponsors,  over 1 0 years with new sponsors Limit annual reinstatement options: every 5th membership offered.     Jim McAdams         ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Briscoe" To: "Board of Directors" Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:24:34 AM Subject: [Board] Reinstatement options poll, reformatted I've reformatted the potential list of options and left a spot on each for other ideas.  We have Ron's response, so if the others could reply with this email and mark the options you like, by what ever method you like or adding in where the "??" are if you come up with more ideas or variations. I can compile them into one email this weekend and send it out if that works for everyone. Members Children reinstatement options 1. Up age 26, 5 years after becoming eligible.  2. Up to age 30 3. Leave as is with no limit 4. ?? Spouse/ Sig Others options:   1. Deceased partner: * Should immediately replace a deceased member, if they want it.  No change in bylaws? 2. Split partners: * Primary partner continues * Secondary partner  goes to the  top of the  reinstatement  wait list,  * Above any past members waiting on the list * B elow any partner split already on the list * Add a  check box on the application to indicate primary partner?   * No change to by-law that states a partner is a couple who joins at the same time? * Does not apply if the current couple becomes a couple after one of them has joined * Though what if they are both members, separately, then become a couple? 3. ??                        Time limit for r einstatement  options:  1. up to 10 years , no sponsors,  over 1 0 years with new sponsors 2. No limit as it is currently 3. ?? Limit annual reinstatement options: 1. One per year 2. Two per year 3. Three per year 4. 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