[Board] Incident at PYC

Wendy wendyclement10 at comcast.net
Thu May 5 17:14:59 MDT 2016


I agree.  This sounds like the most reasonable plan.  If they have issue then we can move forward with the legal option.

I feel we are covering ourselves with having a police officer relay the message.  

Regards,
Wendy Clement



> On May 5, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Nancy Gulley <nancgulley at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Here is where we stand. I have spoken to the police officer handling the case.  He will visit our member on Sunday - i form them he has seen the video we have,and we will not prosecute if they write an immediate letter of resignation and pay for the window and liquor that was stolen.  It is also their suggestion that we state they cannot come on our property alone or ever as a guest. I need to send an email stating all these facts along with the total cost of missing and broken items. Please let e know if you agree with this plan.  If this does not work we will prosecute.
> Nanc
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>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Glenn Michael <glennwmichael at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can live with the immediate resignation and monetary restitution.  Glenn
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 5, 2016, at 2:43 PM, "Dan Gingras" <dan at dangingras.net> wrote:
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>>> I agree… this is the best route.
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>>> From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Gulley
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 12:15 PM
>>> To: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] Incident at PYC
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>>> Jim,
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>>> This is the approach I would like to talk to the police about.  It seems the least difficult for me...and I am definitely into the least difficult scenario.
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>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016, James <jamcadams at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Would the police would go along with approaching the member regarding the incident, and explaining that we have evidence but would not press charges as long as he makes restitution and resigns from the club immediately? Otherwise, we demand restitution and publicly expel him under the Bylaws, and press charges.
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>>> From: "Dan Gingras" <dan at dangingras.net>
>>> To: cccartnick at comcast.net, "Board of Directors" <board at portsmouthyc.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 11:31:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] FW: Incident at PYC
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>>> The constitution requires it.     I recall there was a vote at the annual meeting in that case ( Dr Kosari.)
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>>> From: cccartnick at comcast.net [mailto:cccartnick at comcast.net] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 11:01 AM
>>> To: Gingras, Dan <dan at dangingras.net>; Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
>>> Cc: Michael, Glenn <glennwmichael at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] FW: Incident at PYC
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>>> Hello Board members - please excuse my butting in - 
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>>> When Art Dionne was Commodore, we had a member who mistreated statt.  He also was in a verbal altercation with another member in the parking lot.
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>>> The Board agreed to terminate this person's membership and sent a certified letter to him.  The end.  There was no vote at an annual meeting.  I'm not
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>>> sure it is always required.
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>>> Carole
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>>> From: "Dan Gingras" <dan at dangingras.net>
>>> To: "Glenn Michael" <glennwmichael at gmail.com>, "Board of Directors" <board at portsmouthyc.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 10:39:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] FW: Incident at PYC
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>>> I suggest that we all re-read Section III of the constitution.   The  BOD has the power to suspend a member pending the Annual meeting where the club votes on expulsion and there must be a 2/3 majority.  Please read this section carefully, there must be public charges brought in writing and the member has a right to defend himself.  
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>>> The last time this happened it was ugly.
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>>> From: Glenn Michael [mailto:glennwmichael at gmail.com] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 10:15 AM
>>> To: dan at dangingras.net; Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
>>> Cc: Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] FW: Incident at PYC
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>>> With all due respect I feel we should not set precedents with fines , probation, etc.   We should follow the constitution and terminate the member. Thanks. Glenn
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 5, 2016, at 9:56 AM, "Dan Gingras" <dan at dangingras.net> wrote:
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>>> What about a significant fine (say $5000) and probation.  
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>>> From: Board [mailto:board-bounces at portsmouthyc.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Michael
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 8:25 AM
>>> To: nancy at gulley.com; Board of Directors <board at portsmouthyc.org>
>>> Cc: <board at portsmouthyc.org> <board at portsmouthyc.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Board] FW: Incident at PYC
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>>> This is inexcusable behavior. This person should reimburse the club for damages and the liquor and be immediately terminated. Glenn
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 4, 2016, at 10:23 PM, "Nancy Gulley" <nancgulley at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> If you have already received this – I apologize for the second copy – I am not sure which email I am supposed to used.
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>>> From: Nancy Gulley [mailto:nancgulley at gmail.com] 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:04 PM
>>> To: 'Board of Directors'
>>> Subject: Incident at PYC
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>>> Good evening,
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>>> Before I get into this email I want to stress it is for your eyes only at this moment.  This morning there was a broken window  in the kitchen door.  Question was how did that happen, but the morning progressed.  Jerry went to the security footage and looked to see what happened and discovered that this was a break in with a lot of footage of the person that broke the window.  We have around 5 or more minutes of excellent footage of our visitor walking in and out of the kitchen with excellent facial recognition along with the car in our parking lot.  This person opened the refrigerator walked around broke into the liquor cabinet – stole liquor purchased for the Kentucky Derby Party on Saturday and then left.
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>>> Here is the predicament – this was a very inebriated member of the club.  The police were contacted – this is  misdemeanor theft, not  a felony as all members of our club are allowed to enter the premise at any time with a key.  We need to know if we want to prosecute – do we want the police to attain a search warrant (one bottle of liquor was found at the bottom of the members driveway partly empty) – do we want the police to just talk to this person …and the options go on and on.  If the police go to the house and talk to this person they will never be allowed to be anywhere near our property as part of their probation.
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>>> Our property has been violated – glass was broken -  stuff was stolen – this was a member and their membership should be revoked. 
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>>> PLEASE SHARE YOU THOUGHTS with me as I need to converse with Officer Gaban during the day tomorrow.
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>>> Nanc
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>>> (BY THE WAY – THE POLICE TOLD ME THIS IS THE BEST SECURITY SYSTEM THEY HAVE SEEN AND THAT ALL THE FOOTAGE WAS PERFECT)
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