[Board] Fwd: [Pyc-waitlist] email test
Dick Blidberg
blidberg at ausi.org
Sun Dec 14 07:11:28 MST 2014
Hi All
I really dont understand what is going on here as she should never felt
she was "being chastised" when she attended with non sponsoring
members. I have never heard of this happening before in all my years
here. Sounds to me like the board members in question needed a little
education..... and maybe we do need a "tweak" that changes the words to
"......accompanied by at least one PYC member" Kind of
counterproductive to limit the exposure of a wait-listed member to the
rest of the membership.
On 12/13/2014 3:06 PM, Bill Pelletier wrote:
> Update: The only language I could find that would come close to being
> a prohibition may be in the Application for Membership document at
> http://portsmouthyc.org/WP/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Application-for-Membership-5.pdf
>
>
> On page 4:
>
> /"Because we are limited to 250 Active Memberships there is
> frequently a Wait List for new members. While on the Wait List,
> applicants will receive our regular Newsletters. While we regret
> that we cannot grant full Club privileges to Wait List/
> /members, we do encourage them to attend our social functions,
> always accompanied by at least one sponsor." /
> /
> /
>
> Encouraging these Wait List folks to attend social functions is
> consistent with the intent of helping fulfill Article IX Section 5. I
> personally would stop short of interpreting this as a hard limitation
> for Wait List members attending only with Sponsors, especially since
> there is no apparent limitation to "Guests" other than "reasonable
> numbers". My opinion is that we should not penalize someone from
> enjoying the club with non-Sponsor Members based on that one statement.
>
> The C&BLs set a minimum attendance w/Sponsor requirement, not a
> mandate that they can only attend w/s Sponsor. Without knowing any
> other particulars about the particular "chastising" event, I would
> error on the side of the language in the C&BLs as being only a minimum
> requirement.
>
> Bill P
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Bill Pelletier
> <bill.pelletier at gmail.com <mailto:bill.pelletier at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Being one of the "new folks"... A few questions / observations.
>
> First - since it's been about 14 years or so, could I get a
> current copy of the general "...you're on the waiting list..." letter?
>
> From reading the 2015 Constitution & By-Laws, I do not see any
> prohibition for anyone whose application has been accepted and is
> now on the Waiting List from being a Guest of any other
> non-Sponsor members. Probably the only time I would see that is
> for events where there is a limited attendance capacity and where
> we would want to first afford non-waiting list prospective members
> to attend with their Sponsor(s) in order to fulfill the
> requirements of Article IX Section 5. Does anyone have any
> historical "practices" (vs. defined C&BL language) regarding what
> would appear to me to be an onerous constraint?
>
> Article IV Section 1 is (to me) a bit fuzzy on the status of
> Guests, considering that there is no clear definition of "Guest"
> in the C&BLs. Something to think about this year regarding
> possible C&BL tweaks.
>
> Bill Pelletier
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Christina Y Weller
> <cyweller at comcast.net <mailto:cyweller at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> BOD members,
>
> Below is an email from Edie Argo (Wait List) which was sent to
> me in response to a test of the PYC-Waitlist email list. She
> has asked me to forward this to you, and in a number of later
> emails she indicted that she will be writing to you directly
> as well.
>
> The “letter” she refers to in her email is the letter that is
> sent to all applicants when they have been interviewed and
> accepted to the Wait List.
>
> Chris
>
> /Christina Y Weller
> 4 Tamarind Lane
> Exeter, NH 03833
> cyweller at comcast.net <mailto:cyweller at comcast.net>
> 603-772-8455 <tel:603-772-8455>(h)
> 603-682-6536 <tel:603-682-6536>(m)/
>
>
>
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *Date: *December 12, 2014 at 11:17:06 AM EST
>> *From: *edie argo <edie at ediespresentperfect.com
>> <mailto:edie at ediespresentperfect.com>>
>> *Reply-To: *edie argo <edie at ediespresentperfect.com
>> <mailto:edie at ediespresentperfect.com>>
>> *To: *Christina Y Weller <cyweller at comcast.net
>> <mailto:cyweller at comcast.net>>
>> *Subject: **Re: [Pyc-waitlist] email test*
>>
>> Thanks, Christina
>>
>> Although I am pleased to be a 'potential member' I am MOST
>> disappointed that as an individual on the 'wait list' I have
>> less authorized ability to attend events than I did prior to
>> submitting my application.
>>
>> I have ascertained that this is , in fact, the case, based on:
>>
>> *
>> the letter I received,
>> *
>> the personal experience of being 'chastised' by a few
>> board members when I attended an event with 2 members who
>> are NOT my sponsors
>> *
>> and the fact that bylaws state that I can only attend
>> events with Cathy Nadeau of Steve Demarais.
>>
>> If the bylaws of PYC had been more clearly explicit that I
>> could ONLY attend events as a 'guest ' of my 2 sponsors, I
>> would NEVER have applied.
>>
>> It would have been far better for me , to be a 'perpetual
>> guest' than a member 'in waiting'.
>>
>> As a 'perpetual guest' I was able to attend any event or be
>> on the PYC premises at any time as long it was with a PYC
>> member.
>>
>> If this had been clearly stated in the by laws , instead of
>> simply being boldly stated verbally by , in my opinion,
>> rude PYC board members, I would NEVER have applied.
>>
>> Oh well, I guess you all received $500 from me and I
>> receive no perceived benefit.
>>
>> Would PYC be able to allow me to write off the $500 as a
>> donation?
>>
>> I understand that I can't get my $500 back; although, I
>> believe that legally, I could take PYC to task based on the
>> adverse limitations placed on 'wait list' individuals.
>> However, I could at least write it off as a donation from my
>> business -which I might add, has raised considerable funds
>> for PYC over the 3 fashion shows I have done for PYC.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Edie Argo
>> */Edie " the Present is the Perfect time !" /*
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Christina Y Weller <cyweller at comcast.net
>> <mailto:cyweller at comcast.net>>
>> *To:* pyc-waitlist at portsmouthyc.org
>> <mailto:pyc-waitlist at portsmouthyc.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 9:15 AM
>> *Subject:* [Pyc-waitlist] email test
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is a test of the pyc-waitlist at portsmouthyc.org
>> <mailto:pyc-waitlist at portsmouthyc.org> email list. If you are
>> on this list, you have submitted an application to Portsmouth
>> Yacht Club, been interviewed by the Membership Committee, and
>> have been accepted to the PYC Wait List.
>>
>> Please respond to this email if you receive it.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> /Christina Y Weller
>> 4 Tamarind Lane
>> Exeter, NH 03833
>> cyweller at comcast.net <mailto:cyweller at comcast.net>
>> 603-772-8455 <tel:603-772-8455>(h)
>> 603-682-6536 <tel:603-682-6536>(m)/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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